Camera kroo: shopping for a compact
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Right, thats what I thought... and I used it (or something very similar :thinking: ) all the time on my old camera... I just don't know the term.
And after reading a bunch of reviews, it sounds like the sd1000 has pretty major noise on indoor/low light shots. Most of my work-related photos are indoors, so that could be a problem. Other suggestions?
And after reading a bunch of reviews, it sounds like the sd1000 has pretty major noise on indoor/low light shots. Most of my work-related photos are indoors, so that could be a problem. Other suggestions?
My Canon A710IS has no noise indoors unless I'm on a priority mode (then it overcompensates with a very low exposure).
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Right, thats what I thought... and I used it (or something very similar :thinking: ) all the time on my old camera... I just don't know the term.
And after reading a bunch of reviews, it sounds like the sd1000 has pretty major noise on indoor/low light shots. Most of my work-related photos are indoors, so that could be a problem. Other suggestions?
And after reading a bunch of reviews, it sounds like the sd1000 has pretty major noise on indoor/low light shots. Most of my work-related photos are indoors, so that could be a problem. Other suggestions?
your best bet is to find a point and shoot with a hot shoe for an external flash.
as for low light shots, it's probably going to be the same. it's not the Mega Pixels but the size of the sensor. the small PS digicams have a tiny sensor with bunch of pixels crammed in there so it will increase noise.
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When you say you need a camera that can accept "magnetic wide angle" lenses, I assume you mean the kind of wide-angle adapters that attach in front of the typical compact camera not-very-wide zoom lens to give you an actual wide angle. I also seem to recall something about being a real estate agent, so I assume you need something for shooting interiors.
There are a couple cameras out there which have a real genuine wide angle lens (24mm equiv on 35mm film) built right in, and hotshoes for external flash like Rick mentioned. Namely the Kodak P880 which is pretty much discontinued but you should be able to find one on ebay for pretty cheap. I have one so I'm biased but it's pretty kickass for a compact camera, as long as the operator knows a thing or two about taking pictures. Plus it has a real TTL flash hotshoe for use with the Kodak P20 flash so you can get a more powerful but still automatic flash.
Otherwise there's the Ricoh GX100 which is more compact than the P880's mini wannabe SLR shape and also has a 24mm wide end to its zoom. It's 10 megapixels compared to the P880's 8 megapixels, but the lens on the P880 is overall sharper so you get somewhat better resolution from the P880. The GX100 also has a hotshoe but it's a plain "dumb" hotshoe that just has a flash trigger contact so you need to use an old-skool quasi-auto flash like a Vivitar 283. This requires a bit more exposure work on your end and with the smaller camera + bigger flash combo than the P880+P20 it's a bit awkward.
If you want something truly pocketable there's the Kodak V705 which is a little Elph-sized dealie but it has two lenses, one of which is a 23mm wide angle. Image quality and manual options are somewhat lower than the others and there's no hotshoe, but such is the case with any camera sized like a pack of cigs.
*edit* the Nikon Coolpix 8400 just came to mind as well but it's been discontinued for longer than the P880, similar feature set with not as long of a lens on the tele end, kind of in between the GX100 and P880 in size, TTL hotshoe.
There are a couple cameras out there which have a real genuine wide angle lens (24mm equiv on 35mm film) built right in, and hotshoes for external flash like Rick mentioned. Namely the Kodak P880 which is pretty much discontinued but you should be able to find one on ebay for pretty cheap. I have one so I'm biased but it's pretty kickass for a compact camera, as long as the operator knows a thing or two about taking pictures. Plus it has a real TTL flash hotshoe for use with the Kodak P20 flash so you can get a more powerful but still automatic flash.
Otherwise there's the Ricoh GX100 which is more compact than the P880's mini wannabe SLR shape and also has a 24mm wide end to its zoom. It's 10 megapixels compared to the P880's 8 megapixels, but the lens on the P880 is overall sharper so you get somewhat better resolution from the P880. The GX100 also has a hotshoe but it's a plain "dumb" hotshoe that just has a flash trigger contact so you need to use an old-skool quasi-auto flash like a Vivitar 283. This requires a bit more exposure work on your end and with the smaller camera + bigger flash combo than the P880+P20 it's a bit awkward.
If you want something truly pocketable there's the Kodak V705 which is a little Elph-sized dealie but it has two lenses, one of which is a 23mm wide angle. Image quality and manual options are somewhat lower than the others and there's no hotshoe, but such is the case with any camera sized like a pack of cigs.
*edit* the Nikon Coolpix 8400 just came to mind as well but it's been discontinued for longer than the P880, similar feature set with not as long of a lens on the tele end, kind of in between the GX100 and P880 in size, TTL hotshoe.
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discontinued cameras are a no-go. I'm not going to buy anything without the option to return it if I'm not satisfied.
Yes and yes with regards to the wide angle and indoor shooting. Although, I'm not too concerned about the camera having real built-in wide angle capability, since the magnetic lenses are cheap and easy anyway.
The ricoh gx100 sounds like it would be perfect except the less than awesome reliability. I'm pissed my camera only lasted 3 years, and there are people on dpreview who have had to send theirs back twice in just a few months.
I'm actually considering getting a more basic p&s camera and investing in some clamp-on flood lamps to enhance the lighting... just clamp the light onto a door or a chair or something and point it at a wall to disperse the light.
Yes and yes with regards to the wide angle and indoor shooting. Although, I'm not too concerned about the camera having real built-in wide angle capability, since the magnetic lenses are cheap and easy anyway.
The ricoh gx100 sounds like it would be perfect except the less than awesome reliability. I'm pissed my camera only lasted 3 years, and there are people on dpreview who have had to send theirs back twice in just a few months.
I'm actually considering getting a more basic p&s camera and investing in some clamp-on flood lamps to enhance the lighting... just clamp the light onto a door or a chair or something and point it at a wall to disperse the light.
Last edited by white_n_slow; Nov 26, 2007 at 06:08 PM.
