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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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I'm going to be joining the gun krew in the next couple of months but got a question. When I apply for my FID and permit to buy a gun, that's only to have the gun right? It's only allowed to be in your home or place of residence?

For example, I have my FID and permit. Then I buy a gun and take it home. Let's say I want to go to the range and put the gun in my car and drive off but get pulled over. Do I get in trouble or as long as it's not "on me" then it doesn't apply to "carrying" How many of you have a permit to carry and what was said in the letter sent with the application? I'm confused.

I know state laws vary but generally some of the same rules apply ie. "permit to carry".

Personally, it's not like i'm going to carry it everywhere with me but it's good to know I have that option if I decided I wanted to or needed to.

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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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In FL if you dont have a CCW permit the gun needs to be in its case out of reach. It cant be under the seat or in the glove box. Also must be unloaded. Not sure what the laws in NJ are. You could drive with it to the range. If you got pulled it might not be a bad idea to disclose to the officer that you have a firearm in the car and your purpose for having it. It will make him feel better knowing its there. Also the fact that you disclose it gives gives him more confidence in you
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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You should read and understand your state laws just to be sure but for the most part if you put it in a lock box and have it unloaded or place it in the trunk of the vehicle you should be fine in most if not all states.

I always carry handguns unloaded and in a lock box regardless of where I store them, this way if an officer sees that I own weapons on his computer (highly unlikely in my case) I can just point him to the lock box and they are a lot more at ease with the situation than if I pull it out of the glove box or something to show them.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Too bad packing.org is down. There was tons of information there that varied by state.

But if I remember correctly, youre allowed to have the firearm in your place of residence. If you are transporting it, you might as well be as safe as you can (legally) and do what Nightshade said.

-Firearm in a locked case, unloaded.
-Magazines unloaded and stored in a different compartment from the firearm along with the ammo.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KirkLS
In FL if you dont have a CCW permit the gun needs to be in its case out of reach. It cant be under the seat or in the glove box. Also must be unloaded. Not sure what the laws in NJ are. You could drive with it to the range. If you got pulled it might not be a bad idea to disclose to the officer that you have a firearm in the car and your purpose for having it. It will make him feel better knowing its there. Also the fact that you disclose it gives gives him more confidence in you
Oh yea i'd definately disclose to the officer of the firearms. Last thing I want is for him to "find" it lol. I'll look into the specific law of NJ and having it unloaded and in a locked case sounds about right.

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You should read and understand your state laws just to be sure but for the most part if you put it in a lock box and have it unloaded or place it in the trunk of the vehicle you should be fine in most if not all states.

I always carry handguns unloaded and in a lock box regardless of where I store them, this way if an officer sees that I own weapons on his computer (highly unlikely in my case) I can just point him to the lock box and they are a lot more at ease with the situation than if I pull it out of the glove box or something to show them.
Good point. Thanks for the info guys, i'll read up on some stuff you pointed out. The permit to carry asks for a letter as to the reason why you would need it. What are the possible reasons for getting accepted other than saying you feel you're in danger or just want the protection, etc......What are the usual circumstances that they'll allow for such a permit?
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by b00gers
Too bad packing.org is down. There was tons of information there that varied by state.

But if I remember correctly, youre allowed to have the firearm in your place of residence. If you are transporting it, you might as well be as safe as you can (legally) and do what Nightshade said.

-Firearm in a locked case, unloaded.
-Magazines unloaded and stored in a different compartment from the firearm along with the ammo.
Thanks, i'll check out that website once it's up and running.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by v6_accord_jerz
...What are the usual circumstances that they'll allow for such a permit?
Depends on the state and county...and how strict they are.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by b00gers
Depends on the state and county...and how strict they are.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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In NY, permit to own = license to carry. We are even allowed to have it loaded and in our lap while we drive (if we wanted to, but that seems kind of stupid). You also have to have purchased the gun already from a dealer or broker and get the serial number of the weapon that is going to be on your license.

I just got mine a couple months ago. It's a bitch of a wait but well worth it IMO.

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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete
In NY, permit to own = license to carry. We are even allowed to have it loaded and in our lap while we drive (if we wanted to, but that seems kind of stupid). You also have to have purchased the gun already from a dealer or broker and get the serial number of the weapon that is going to be on your license.

I just got mine a couple months ago. It's a bitch of a wait but well worth it IMO.

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Damn and I would think NY gun laws are more strict than in NJ. I'll look into that, although there is a serperate form that needs to be filled out to carry, other than the FID & permit in NJ.
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