The UN and world politics
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The UN and world politics
I disagree with tark and feel that the UN is useless for anything but international law disputes. Honestly I think it should be dismantled if it weren't for the fact that every once in a while something is resolved through it...aside from that it is a joke with no power at all.
Originally Posted by Tark
I agree with some of John's statement. THe UN has little power because some countries do not respect the orginasation and do as the please anywais. Being fromed fromt hsoe same countries that doesn't repect the organisation the UN can't do much about it. If the UN was to ever become the world government a reform would be needed to eliminate the permanent members and there veto powers.
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can you rephrase that please?
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well for starters, regardless of how divided the US nation can get at times relating to politics and beliefs, theres one area that always brings us back together and bring peoples patriotic feelings out front.
and that area is infringement upon american liberties and assaults on the way of life in the US. There are aspects of the UN that would go directly against the US constitution that , in my belief, a majority of Americans would be strongly against seeing implemented.
A one world government as neat as it may sound is politically impossible, there are elements of world powers that are too diverse for there to be one clear government style. The UN has never truly been a governing body, its always been there as more of an advisor and mediator. they dont have the structure to govern 3 billion people of radically different beliefs and opinions.
The UN has no backbone, time and time again countries that have had mandates pressed upon them by the UN have flaunted them with absolute disregard for the consequences, the consequences that are rarely enforced.
As a advisor board or a mediator in disputes the UN works great, as a governing body that must implement and enforce law and order over 3 billion + people of every type is absolute ludicracy.
and that area is infringement upon american liberties and assaults on the way of life in the US. There are aspects of the UN that would go directly against the US constitution that , in my belief, a majority of Americans would be strongly against seeing implemented.
A one world government as neat as it may sound is politically impossible, there are elements of world powers that are too diverse for there to be one clear government style. The UN has never truly been a governing body, its always been there as more of an advisor and mediator. they dont have the structure to govern 3 billion people of radically different beliefs and opinions.
The UN has no backbone, time and time again countries that have had mandates pressed upon them by the UN have flaunted them with absolute disregard for the consequences, the consequences that are rarely enforced.
As a advisor board or a mediator in disputes the UN works great, as a governing body that must implement and enforce law and order over 3 billion + people of every type is absolute ludicracy.
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It would have to establish itself as a country unto itself in order to remain completely neutral.
You know why the US volunteered to put it in it's borders right? It ws to keep tabs on everyone else and to always have the upper hand in matters within.
The UN is a strategic move and not created out of any actual concern for world politics. It was created by our allies and the rest of the world was convinced to join it through various tactics. It is not the safe neutral discussion place you think it is by any means.
You know why the US volunteered to put it in it's borders right? It ws to keep tabs on everyone else and to always have the upper hand in matters within.
The UN is a strategic move and not created out of any actual concern for world politics. It was created by our allies and the rest of the world was convinced to join it through various tactics. It is not the safe neutral discussion place you think it is by any means.
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It would have to establish itself as a country unto itself in order to remain completely neutral.
You know why the US volunteered to put it in it's borders right? It ws to keep tabs on everyone else and to always have the upper hand in matters within.
The UN is a strategic move and not created out of any actual concern for world politics. It was created by our allies and the rest of the world was convinced to join it through various tactics. It is not the safe neutral discussion place you think it is by any means.
You know why the US volunteered to put it in it's borders right? It ws to keep tabs on everyone else and to always have the upper hand in matters within.
The UN is a strategic move and not created out of any actual concern for world politics. It was created by our allies and the rest of the world was convinced to join it through various tactics. It is not the safe neutral discussion place you think it is by any means.
every time some dictator screams that the UN is nothing more than a puppet of the US......there is some merit to that. granted its not that extreme, but the US and its core allies def hold a majority of the control of the UN.
why you think we do shit internationally without even worrying about what the UN will say. Because the US govt. is not afraid of the UN at all.