Agreed... and it seams so logical that phones today should have vibrate and ring at the same time that i dont even look for it anymore. I didnt think they still produced phone like that.

didnt buy it got it for free... plus how can you use a phone before buying?

 

It seems that alot of samsung's can't vibe + ring. My old samsung couldn't do it, and god was that a PITA. Every other phone i've had can vibe + ring, and it really threw me off for the 3 months I had it.

 

They give you 30 day trials

 

go to the store and fuck around with it / find someone who has it.

 

The thinner and smaller they make em, the less room for a decent sized motor for the vibrator. I've learned that on my V3t. I'm used to it now but used to have a Kyocera Energi. The Kyo was old school but wow, I bet Kyocera would have been successful marketing them to adult novelty stores