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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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Beh just different values than we are used to, the kids will turn out fine. :10q:
friggin communist :madr:
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe
Beh just different values than we are used to, the kids will turn out fine. :10q:
but that is the problem, it isn't up to the schools to teach values. Values are tought by parents.
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RB
but that is the problem, it isn't up to the schools to teach values. Values are tought by parents.
But It is up to the schools to teach the differences between both. Just beacause they are teaching sopmething different doesn't mean they are forcing a point of view upon the children...
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I don't think it's a problem to introduce the kids to a different way of thinking. If it promotes working together and a sense of community then good. This is America so I really doubt they will lose their sense of individuality. And I don't think they parents should have a problem with it because (whether they like to believe it or not) they are still a bigger influence on the kids social and moral development than the school is.
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Originally Posted by LABARINTH
I don't think it's a problem to introduce the kids to a different way of thinking. If it promotes working together and a sense of community then good. This is America so I really doubt they will lose their sense of individuality. And I don't think they parents should have a problem with it because (whether they like to believe it or not) they are still a bigger influence on the kids social and moral development than the school is.
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe
Beh just different values than we are used to, the kids will turn out fine. :10q:

Originally Posted by RB
but that is the problem, it isn't up to the schools to teach values. Values are tought by parents.
werd...

and name one communist(socialist) nation that is a "good" model
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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But It is up to the schools to teach the differences between both. Just beacause they are teaching sopmething different doesn't mean they are forcing a point of view upon the children...
I agree, much like teaching the difference between Creationism vs Evolution. However, as states in the article, they went past teaching the difference and applied value judgments:

These assumptions "mirrored those of a class-based, capitalist society -- a society that we teachers believe to be unjust and oppressive."

key words: "we teachers believe".


The first thing a teacher should know is that it doesn't matter what they believe. They're not instructed to teach what they believe...at least not in public primary school.
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tark
But It is up to the schools to teach the differences between both. Just beacause they are teaching sopmething different doesn't mean they are forcing a point of view upon the children...
At the end of that time, Legos returned to the classroom after the children agreed to several guiding principles framed by the teachers, including that "All structures are public structures" and "All structures will be standard sizes." The teachers quote the children:

"A house is good because it is a community house."

"We should have equal houses. They should be standard sizes."

"It's important to have the same amount of power as other people over your building."

the children werent allowed their lego's until they agreed that all structures are public structures.

seems to me they forced this view upon the children. maybe not violently or obviously. but it was a rewards based system, sort of how you train a dog that it gets a treat when it does what its told.

these children were told, listen to us, believe these principles, you get your toys back.
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RB
I agree, much like teaching the difference between Creationism vs Evolution. However, as states in the article, they went past teaching the difference and applied value judgments:




key words: "we teachers believe".


The first thing a teacher should know is that it doesn't matter what they believe. They're not instructed to teach what they believe...at least not in public primary school.

RB, dont forget this was a private school....
Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rebeld
the children werent allowed their lego's until they agreed that all structures are public structures.

seems to me they forced this view upon the children. maybe not violently or obviously. but it was a rewards based system, sort of how you train a dog that it gets a treat when it does what its told.

these children were told, listen to us, believe these principles, you get your toys back.
exactly.



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