Missing father found "face down"
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how does one add "missed turnoff, got lost" to the itinerary?
once again, i have to say, he stayed put for a week.
do you know what was going through his head at the end of that week? well, i bet it was something like, "if i don't do something, we're going to die here alone."
yes, survival 101, blah blah blah. what happens when survival 210 starts up?
of course, all you guys have the answers, sitting in your heated home, having had a warm meal in the past 6 hours. tell me what he should have done after you've sat in a car in the middle of nowhere for a week straight, there's no heat, you haven't seen a single soul, your family is freezing, frostbite has set in, and food is just about gone..
edit > i also have to point out the amusing fact that no one has criticized the search and rescue team yet -- who are trained for these kinds of things -- the search and rescue team who found..... NOTHING. that's right, who found the mother and daughters?
yet let's criticize the father for not knowing exactly what to do in a time of extreme desperation.. :down:
Sometime along the way, they missed a turnoff and got lost.
once again, i have to say, he stayed put for a week.
do you know what was going through his head at the end of that week? well, i bet it was something like, "if i don't do something, we're going to die here alone."
yes, survival 101, blah blah blah. what happens when survival 210 starts up?
of course, all you guys have the answers, sitting in your heated home, having had a warm meal in the past 6 hours. tell me what he should have done after you've sat in a car in the middle of nowhere for a week straight, there's no heat, you haven't seen a single soul, your family is freezing, frostbite has set in, and food is just about gone..
edit > i also have to point out the amusing fact that no one has criticized the search and rescue team yet -- who are trained for these kinds of things -- the search and rescue team who found..... NOTHING. that's right, who found the mother and daughters?
On Monday, searchers in a helicopter hired by the family spotted Kati Kim, 30, and daughters Penelope, 4, and Sabine, 7 months. They left a hospital in Grants Pass on Tuesday and were described as being in good condition.
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hats off to that dude for looking for his family. he's my hero.
Stuff similar, but not as extreme, happens in South Dakota sometimes. Best thing to do it stay in your car. Winter survival kits FTW. But shit, his family is out there. That a tough line to walk. Stay conservative hope my family shows up, or go out and look for them regardless. Either way its a complete mind rape.
Stuff similar, but not as extreme, happens in South Dakota sometimes. Best thing to do it stay in your car. Winter survival kits FTW. But shit, his family is out there. That a tough line to walk. Stay conservative hope my family shows up, or go out and look for them regardless. Either way its a complete mind rape.
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sad news indeed. i don't get all these people saying stuff like how he was a moron and all that for leaving the road. get over yourselves. i'm sure in times of panic you guys know 100% of the time what you're going to do right? 
internet ftl. it's so easy to sit back and be pricks when in real life you're probably just a bunch of bitches 
internet ftl. it's so easy to sit back and be pricks when in real life you're probably just a bunch of bitches
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That is EXACTLY why you stay put. I have to back Nightshade on this.
1. Doesn't seem to have left a detailed itinerary with anyone.
2. Warned not to take the road he took.
3. Violated rule #1 of wilderness survival 101 - If you are lost, do not wander aimlessly as you just make it harder for rescuers to find you.
4. Lacked the equipment to safely leave the camp to find help.
Honestly, this pisses me off. The media coverage appears to be "oh what a tragedy, what a hero, blah blah" when this is a perfect opportunity to slip in around the edges information on what to do, not to do, in this type of situation.
1. Doesn't seem to have left a detailed itinerary with anyone.
2. Warned not to take the road he took.
3. Violated rule #1 of wilderness survival 101 - If you are lost, do not wander aimlessly as you just make it harder for rescuers to find you.
4. Lacked the equipment to safely leave the camp to find help.
Honestly, this pisses me off. The media coverage appears to be "oh what a tragedy, what a hero, blah blah" when this is a perfect opportunity to slip in around the edges information on what to do, not to do, in this type of situation.
I'll also have to mention the seasonal road thing. I don't know how it is in Texas, Michigan, or wherever the hell some of you live, but out West, rural seasonal backroads are not well defined and in a storm (or just after snowfall, since these roads aren't plowed) it's extraordinarily easy to get yourself lost between what is road and what isn't. I also don't see what his being from San Francisco has to do with anything. (although I guess I should just be happy no one here has made an Asian remark.)
He waited a week before leaving the camp, after burning tires to attract attention, and left markers to indicate where he was going. He did lack safety equipment, but really... when the lives of your wife and kids are at risk, your kids are going hungry, you and your wife are both starving , getting weaker, and getting frostbite to protect the kids, and other options have been exercised, this was an act of desperation to find help to save his family. It seems like it was more important to him for his family to survive - the ultimate act of selflessness.
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