NYC School Cell Phone Ban Causes Uproar
NEW YORK - A ban on cell phones in the nation's biggest school system is creating an uproar among parents and students alike, with teenagers smuggling their phones inside their lunches and under their clothes, and grown-ups insisting they need to stay in touch with their children in case of another crisis like Sept. 11.
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Parents have written angry letters and e-mails, staged rallies and news conferences, and threatened to sue. Some City Council members are introducing legislation on their behalf.
But Mayor Michael Bloomberg and schools Chancellor Joel Klein have staunchly refused to drop the ban. They insist cell phones are a distraction and are used to cheat, take inappropriate photos in bathrooms, and organize gang rendezvous. They are also a top stolen item.
Students have refused to give up their phones, saying the devices have become too vital to their daily existence and to their parents' peace of mind.
"My mother, she needs me to have the cell to call me and check up on me," said Steven Cao, 16, a sophomore who lives in Staten Island and attends Stuyvesant High School in Manhattan. He called the ban stupid.
Some parents would prefer a policy that lets students have cell phones but prohibits their use in classes.
New York's 1.1-million-student school system has banned beepers and other communication devices since the late 1980s. But schools have long used an "out-of-sight, out-of-trouble" approach. Then, late last month, city officials began sending portable metal detectors every day to a random but small set of schools to keep out weapons. And the detectors have led to the confiscation of hundreds of cell phones.
New York has one of the country's toughest policies on student cell phones, and also bans other electronic devices such as iPods.
Detroit bans cell phones, and a two-time violator will not get the phone back. Boston relied on a school-by-school approach until recently, when it changed the policy to let students have a phone, but only if it is turned off and out of sight. Los Angeles lets kids have cell phones, but they can use them only during lunch and breaks.
Kenneth Trump, president of Ohio-based National School Safety and Security Services, said his research indicates most schools ban the phones. Others require students to turn off the devices during school hours.
New York principals said the ban is tough to enforce, especially in large schools without metal detectors.
"Every kid today does carry a cell phone," said Howard Lucks, principal of New Utrecht High in Brooklyn. "The kids keep them in their backpacks, their pockets. As soon as they see an administrator or teacher, they put it away very quickly."
Elizabeth Casanola sneaks her cell phone past the metal detectors at her high school by slipping it down her pants, just below the waistband, where she knows she won't be patted down.
Even at schools with permanent metal detectors, students find ways to sneak the phones inside. Casanola sometimes smuggles her phone in in pieces, with the battery separate from the main body.
Once inside the school, another tactic is to hide the phone in a sandwich roll, according to one principal. Some students leave phones at nearby stores that charge small holding fees.
Yen Ramirez, a junior at Manhattan's Washington Irving High, said students need their phones for emergencies. The ban is a problem "because you never know what could happen."
Students insist that most classmates use their cell phones responsibly, and they brush off criticism that previous generations got along fine without them.
"It's kind of ridiculous that we think we can't survive without a cell phone when people did it for thousands of years," said Elisa Muyl, 14, a freshman at Stuyvesant High. "But now that they have this invention, we should use it."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060512/...ll_phone_ban_1
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remember when we only had pay phones?
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Parents have written angry letters and e-mails, staged rallies and news conferences, and threatened to sue. Some City Council members are introducing legislation on their behalf.
But Mayor Michael Bloomberg and schools Chancellor Joel Klein have staunchly refused to drop the ban. They insist cell phones are a distraction and are used to cheat, take inappropriate photos in bathrooms, and organize gang rendezvous. They are also a top stolen item.
Students have refused to give up their phones, saying the devices have become too vital to their daily existence and to their parents' peace of mind.
"My mother, she needs me to have the cell to call me and check up on me," said Steven Cao, 16, a sophomore who lives in Staten Island and attends Stuyvesant High School in Manhattan. He called the ban stupid.
Some parents would prefer a policy that lets students have cell phones but prohibits their use in classes.
New York's 1.1-million-student school system has banned beepers and other communication devices since the late 1980s. But schools have long used an "out-of-sight, out-of-trouble" approach. Then, late last month, city officials began sending portable metal detectors every day to a random but small set of schools to keep out weapons. And the detectors have led to the confiscation of hundreds of cell phones.
New York has one of the country's toughest policies on student cell phones, and also bans other electronic devices such as iPods.
Detroit bans cell phones, and a two-time violator will not get the phone back. Boston relied on a school-by-school approach until recently, when it changed the policy to let students have a phone, but only if it is turned off and out of sight. Los Angeles lets kids have cell phones, but they can use them only during lunch and breaks.
Kenneth Trump, president of Ohio-based National School Safety and Security Services, said his research indicates most schools ban the phones. Others require students to turn off the devices during school hours.
New York principals said the ban is tough to enforce, especially in large schools without metal detectors.
"Every kid today does carry a cell phone," said Howard Lucks, principal of New Utrecht High in Brooklyn. "The kids keep them in their backpacks, their pockets. As soon as they see an administrator or teacher, they put it away very quickly."
Elizabeth Casanola sneaks her cell phone past the metal detectors at her high school by slipping it down her pants, just below the waistband, where she knows she won't be patted down.
Even at schools with permanent metal detectors, students find ways to sneak the phones inside. Casanola sometimes smuggles her phone in in pieces, with the battery separate from the main body.
Once inside the school, another tactic is to hide the phone in a sandwich roll, according to one principal. Some students leave phones at nearby stores that charge small holding fees.
Yen Ramirez, a junior at Manhattan's Washington Irving High, said students need their phones for emergencies. The ban is a problem "because you never know what could happen."
Students insist that most classmates use their cell phones responsibly, and they brush off criticism that previous generations got along fine without them.
"It's kind of ridiculous that we think we can't survive without a cell phone when people did it for thousands of years," said Elisa Muyl, 14, a freshman at Stuyvesant High. "But now that they have this invention, we should use it."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060512/...ll_phone_ban_1
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remember when we only had pay phones?
Originally Posted by Civic2Scooby
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I was amongst the first wave of "but damnit I cant live without this new device" highschoolers
I was amongst the first wave of "but damnit I cant live without this new device" highschoolers

actually, I thought it was funny. Back when I first got my beeper, not a lot of people had them, except if you dealt drugs. So of course, I got asked if I was a dealer quite a bit

thing was, my dad had a hard time keeping track/getting ahold of me, because I would always be at school or all over SD with my friend and his rents, or riding around on my bike. He was at work all day and a single parent. It brought him peace of mind that he could get in touch with me if he needed to.
Originally Posted by Derek
thing was, my dad had a hard time keeping track/getting ahold of me, because I would always be at school or all over SD with my friend and his rents, or riding around on my bike. He was at work all day and a single parent. It brought him peace of mind that he could get in touch with me if he needed to.
I work in a middle school and I can tell you how distracting they can be. But I dont think an all out ban is the solution. "Out of sight - out of trouble" ftw. If they see the phone during class, snatch it. Using it on school properties without prior permission, snatch it. Those are my rules.
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Originally Posted by Derek
youngin' 
actually, I thought it was funny. Back when I first got my beeper, not a lot of people had them, except if you dealt drugs. So of course, I got asked if I was a dealer quite a bit
thing was, my dad had a hard time keeping track/getting ahold of me, because I would always be at school or all over SD with my friend and his rents, or riding around on my bike. He was at work all day and a single parent. It brought him peace of mind that he could get in touch with me if he needed to.

actually, I thought it was funny. Back when I first got my beeper, not a lot of people had them, except if you dealt drugs. So of course, I got asked if I was a dealer quite a bit

thing was, my dad had a hard time keeping track/getting ahold of me, because I would always be at school or all over SD with my friend and his rents, or riding around on my bike. He was at work all day and a single parent. It brought him peace of mind that he could get in touch with me if he needed to.

and sadly enough it was because of your aformentioned reasoning above...I was young and stupid.


