I don't doubt this. But this is true whether an immigrant kills 13 members of my family, or a US citizen kills 13 members of my family. That's why juries decide guilt and innocence, and judges hand down sentences, not you.

I don't disagree. My parents are immigrants.

Well, you must go through a lot of dogs then. I don't disagree with the notion of punishment, but I do disagree with the notion of killing for merely crossing the border.

So you are saying shoot someone if they cross the border. I already told you why I don't agree with that.
There are two places in the world I can think of with such a border system: the Berlin Wall (East/West Germany) and the DMZ (North/South Korea). And those are (were) countries at war. Now, if Mexican military personnel cross the border, then that is an act of war, and then the M2's are appropriate. But not for your average border hopper.

 

you make a reasonble point but i still fell that they should not be allowed to cross. "merely crossing the border" is an offense and if you kill some1 then hes not "merely a killer" a crime is a crime and the punishment should be relavant . by just deporting sum1 just buys time before the come back again its just that something has to be done

 

There is some truth to that. Depends on the circumstance. TX is old school in a lot of ways.

 

Just put some mines down and but up a wall, if they jump the wall and run into the mines it's their own damn fault and we didn't pull a trigger, we are just putting out a warning if you come over you risk the chance of death...deterrent enough and people won't come in

 

I don't see why everyone is talking about shooting people at the border. Why stop there? Why not shoot them here? I know a lot of illegal immigrants that are apparently doing me so much harm that they should die. Man I could have a field day going to their houses, jobs, taking them all out. National security. In fact, we should kill anyone committing a crime, like speeding or not fixing their headlights. National security. Oklahoma City bomber was American.

National security.

 

YOU are an idiot! is that what you want millions and millions of people here that are taking your money and your freedoms that they dont even pay for. what we are talking about is protecting our country and enforcing our borders. read the whole forum and you would know why. as an american i pay taxes, go to work everyday, pay medical bills, and it all goes to people who dont even care about our country. if the game here to make a better life for them and there family and respected our laws and paid taxes then i would have no problem with it. but that just isnt the case now is it!

 

word to the wise they did and have already. they are going to bring us down if it keeps going the way it has. something has to be done, if it gets bad enough they will have to into an order to protect or nation. that does put our nations economy at risk.

 

It does suck that a couple of my dollars might not be going where I want them to, and perhaps me and my country doesn't get the respect we deserve. I just don't think it's grounds to take a human life, especially if it's some guy risking everything he's got just to provide for himself and his family. There many more people that are here on legal grounds that are a much greater drain and danger to society. Some live in the ghettos and some are the leaders of our nation.

I understand your need to blame society's ills on someone, and the inerent comfort in placing the blame outside our borders. That's human nature. But, when it comes down to taking people's lives is when you have to shove human nature aside and start thinking logically.