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I think Mother Earth is laughing at the puny humans thinking that they can actually affect her climate. :chuckles:

Anyway, I was thinking...If the seasons flip-flopped, and we had summer weather during Christmas season, and winter weather during summer break...would we keep the same calendar, or adapt accordingly?

 

What do you think they do in Australia? h:

 

Russia's winters always seem like absolute hell. I would hate to live there this time of year.




EDIT: Any time of year. h: Be a cool place to visit though.

 

I find it funny that while no one disputes the Earth's climate changes; Not even global-warming "scientists" can agree as to what extent humans are causing that change, if any. They all disagree with one another.

I also find it amazing how when the weather on Earth takes a different direction than "predicted," they seem to have a "reason" for the change, and can magically relate it back to the original thought or theory they had in the first place.

It all smells of a little-known, under-studied, non-factual, self-fulfilling prophecy to me.

The Earth's climate changes, it always has and it always will, and there is very little evidence to suggest that what humans are doing are causing it to do anything out of the ordinary, compared to what it may have done in the past.

Can studying the climate determine a way in which we can "mold" the environment / weather to better suit our needs? Perhaps to prevent the cooling or warming that the Earth may have had in mind naturally? Sure, I can accept that's a possibility -- but this "Global warming is happening!" and then when it gets colder saying "No, see! Thats part of global warming, because of <enter reason involving some bullshit currents or whatever you want> to make it sound like global cooling still fits in with global warming" it just drives me nuts.

Bottom line: I have an air conditioner and heater. I'll be fine.

 

pretty much how i always thought of it....h:

 

8 below.... it easily got to 15 below last year.

 

All of this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge about global carbon cycles, how entropic weather systems react to greater amounts of trapped energy, and the very fundamentals of scientific discussion.

Especially all the stupid parts about "look, it's colder in some areas of the world! Global warming can't be happening!". Weather is an entropic system; when you introduce more energy into the environment, it doesn't heat up uniformly and nicely. While the system adjusts to the incoming energy, weather patterns become more extreme. (It is significant to note they have measured equatorial waters warming .5C in the upper 100' in some areas of the ocean... if you have any idea how much energy it takes to warm that amount of water... it's a lot)

Human induced climate change is not a contention amongst real scientists, but is only detracted by uninformed people, advocacy groups pretending to be research bodies, and people who like to just ignore everything that doesn't fit their worldview. Very similar to what's also happening to evolutionary theory right now. But just because scientists cannot agree on the exact amount that can be attributed to human impact does not mitigate it's importance. That's science: Differing theories are presented for debate, and after a while, the poor theories are weeded out and the better theories are refined.

We've only had the technology to accurately measure and model these changes for the last decade. So, it will be a contentious issue for probably the next decade or so, but hopefully around then, we will have been able to push this debate forward enough to start hopefully making some preventative changes.

 

i dont know man... Toronto is pretty weak they call in the army when getting 2 foot of snow! pussys. but your right until it hit -60°C we can survive.

 

Well said Epoch.