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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FallenAngelHIM
okay, but back to my main concerns and questions...anyone got anymore input and answers to my questions?

i've thought of another question or two...
Lancer Evo stock w/ Turbo 280hp+/-
theoretically couldn't i turbo the stock V6 255+/- and up it to the 300 level of HP?

p.s. no american cars for me, i dunno i just don't like them...
yea, your right man, i mean the only problem i ever had was that it caught on fire. but, meh, its all good.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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#1 no you wont get 300hp with i/h/e on the accord
#2 why even care about sohc or dohc, if the car is fast it's fast. look at the c6 z06 which everyone tries to make fun of because it's a pushrod design.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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In Honda's 4-cylinder engines they have shown they are able to make more power with DOHC heads than SOHC heads.

In Honda's 6-cylinder engines they have shown they are able to make plenty of power with SOHC heads so no need for the added cost of DOHC heads. The only DOHC V6 that Honda makes is in the NSX.

3.2 liter DOHC V6 in the NSX makes 280 hp, the 3.2 liter DOHC V6 in the TL makes 258 hp. The NSX engine has a much higher redline and exotic bits inside of it like titanium connecting rods and stuff.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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well, not just I/H/E/ on the V6, i was saying, couldn't i turbocharge it or rebuild it's engine to walk up to 300hp? preferably turbo charge it?
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FallenAngelHIM
well, not just I/H/E/ on the V6, i was saying, couldn't i turbocharge it or rebuild it's engine to walk up to 300hp? preferably turbo charge it?
well if your talking about buying a newer car then youd be waving good bye to any warrenty you had on the car. Really your comparing apples to oranges in this sence. The accord and the evo are ment for completly different markets. The evo is ment to be and off the lot race car, the accord is ment to be a sporty family car. There is nothing you cant do to either, so long as your willing to commit the time and the money. If your looking for a car that you can buy and new modify under warrenty then your best bet is gonna be an srt-4. Mopar has 3 stages of modifcations that will get you sitting pretty good in the 300+hp range.
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BNaccord2k1
I don't have a problem with Dodge what so ever. In fact my 96 Dodge Neon has been the best, most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. Nothing has ever failed on it except for the infamous head gasket that Chrysler covered under warranty. It has never needed a thing other than fluid changes. It has cost me less to operate the Neon for 9 years, than it has my Accord for 2 years. I'm all for Dodge.
Actually the 420A 2.0 liter DOHC is probably Chryslers most reliable 4-cylinder they've ever built. It is by no means a representation of the brand as a whole.
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FallenAngelHIM
well, not just I/H/E/ on the V6, i was saying, couldn't i turbocharge it or rebuild it's engine to walk up to 300hp? preferably turbo charge it?
Okay...

Turbocharging the 3.0 liter V6 in the Accord will be a bastard for several reasons. First, there's no sort of ECU reflash or piggyback that you can throw in there and make it run correctly. So you're looking at $1000 for an AEM EMS or a LinkECU right there and/or some sort of AFC unit.

Secondly, nobody makes a kit, which isn't a bad thing, but it's a little more work. You need to piece it together yourself.

Oh and here's the glorious part about the J30's post 2002, they have the exhaust manifold inside the engine. So yeah, have fun with that.

An option you can do is to get the Comptech supercharger (www.comptechusa.com) which is carried and is warrantied by Honda and Acura. It's a bolt on kit so installation is pretty simple. Comptech lists the supercharger kit to fit only 98-02 Accords, but they'll be releasing one for the '03+ within a year. For demonstative purposes, the supercharger kit made an extra ~45WHP, so about 245 crank HP and ~200WHP. It's $3,995 which is a little spendy but is really your only option besides shooting a snot load of nitrous into your engine all the time.

So it basically comes down to this. You can have a reasonably quick Accord by throwing on the Comptech supercharger and being done with it. However, the K24 in the TSX offers a lot more potency if you really want high horsepower figures, and you are able to turbocharge that motor with relative ease (aside from converting it from drive by wire back to drive by cable).

Personally I think the Accord 6-speed would be more than enough to entertain you. If you want to run with an EVO and don't want to spend ridiculous money building a car, then get an EVO.

Also the whole SOHC or DOHC thing doesn't really make a difference. Honda uses DOHC designs in their higher horsepower 4-cylinders because you either need displacement, revs or forced induction to make power. Honda chooses high revs. DOHC's can withstand higher RPM easier because there's two cams, one controlling the intake and one the exhaust valves, so there's less rotational mass. SOHC uses one cam with rocker arms to control both. Plus with DOHC it eliminates the SOHC rocker arms which is just more mass and less stable at higher revolutions.

SOHC is used on most of their V6's and lowlier 4-cylinders because it's a simplistic design, it's a lot quieter in operation (theoretically), and most of their V6's already have decent displacement to work with anyway.
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Or just do an H22 swap + turbo + tranny conversion in your 6th gen for the win. :uhhok:
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