German>Japanese?
love my friends s4...fast and blast to drive but always has some electrical problem or something with the body...windshield wipers didn't work on this last friday and the car wouldn't unlock for some strange reason (but 30 min later it did)
love my 944 (150hp engine) but 30k timing belts...$500k clutch kits (oem clutches were rubber center that quickly broke after 40k miles), $120/labor from dealer! - so I do the work myself
my 85 lude lasted 275k miles from high school, through college, into law school - replaced 2 total clutches ($500 dealer installed including parts), 1 alternator, 3 timing belt/water pump services and that was it...nothing broke on this car ever...it's only drawback was it rusted b/c of chicago winters and salty roads
love my 944 (150hp engine) but 30k timing belts...$500k clutch kits (oem clutches were rubber center that quickly broke after 40k miles), $120/labor from dealer! - so I do the work myself
my 85 lude lasted 275k miles from high school, through college, into law school - replaced 2 total clutches ($500 dealer installed including parts), 1 alternator, 3 timing belt/water pump services and that was it...nothing broke on this car ever...it's only drawback was it rusted b/c of chicago winters and salty roads
Originally Posted by Dorikin
As a corollary to the threads about the Honda scene dying and the "Are you sick of modding cars".
For a while I really wanted a 240 or an FC, pumping out 350whp, ball-bearing turbo, coilovers, LSD, the full nine yards. Then I drove them. Theyre alright. But ultimately not satisfying. They feel like 15 year old cars, and I like having ABS as well.
My friends first goal for his FC was to beat my dad's car, a 530i. They run a mid 15 quarter, 0-60 in 6.8-7seconds, its not tough to do. Even though he beat me from a standing start, from a highway roll we were pretty much even, and he had about 50hp on me and a manual tranny.
Even though some people give me shit for rocking my dads car, Its faster than anything I could afford at this stage of the game, not to mention has a better system, handles better and is alot nicer looking. Im saving up for an E36 325i but Ive got a while to go.
Anyways I'm rambling but I guess what I meant was German cars really are special, modified 15 year old cars are over-rated, and I wish I was a baller.
For a while I really wanted a 240 or an FC, pumping out 350whp, ball-bearing turbo, coilovers, LSD, the full nine yards. Then I drove them. Theyre alright. But ultimately not satisfying. They feel like 15 year old cars, and I like having ABS as well.
My friends first goal for his FC was to beat my dad's car, a 530i. They run a mid 15 quarter, 0-60 in 6.8-7seconds, its not tough to do. Even though he beat me from a standing start, from a highway roll we were pretty much even, and he had about 50hp on me and a manual tranny.
Even though some people give me shit for rocking my dads car, Its faster than anything I could afford at this stage of the game, not to mention has a better system, handles better and is alot nicer looking. Im saving up for an E36 325i but Ive got a while to go.
Anyways I'm rambling but I guess what I meant was German cars really are special, modified 15 year old cars are over-rated, and I wish I was a baller.
These are 2 cars built to entirely different sets of values and budgets.
I think this has more to do with finding a car that suits your tastes, not comparing apples and oranges.

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Originally Posted by RB
korean > brazillian > vietnamese > swedish > american > japanese > german > italian > yugoslavian > russian > taiwanese > chinese > french > english > saudi arabian
what if it was a mix of american and german?
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Originally Posted by WiLL
...I really wanna get out and shoot people.
then it would be korean > brazillian > vietnamese > swedish > american > japa german/american nese > german > italian > yugoslavian > russian > taiwanese > chinese > french > english > saudi arabian
Originally Posted by DakarM
okay lets compare. how much is a window regulator from a 1998 integra?
vs a window regulator for a 1998 328i
bwm one is $80
the integra one is $300+ that is if you're lucky.
lets talk clutch. on bmws they generally last 125K or so if they are tracked or autoxed for most of their life. if not it will last 200K easily and this is on a torquey I-6 not the 4 banger with 120ft/lb of torque.
like with any car, if you take it to the dealer you will get ripped on parts, be it a honda, ford, audi, bmw.
vs a window regulator for a 1998 328i
bwm one is $80
the integra one is $300+ that is if you're lucky.
lets talk clutch. on bmws they generally last 125K or so if they are tracked or autoxed for most of their life. if not it will last 200K easily and this is on a torquey I-6 not the 4 banger with 120ft/lb of torque.
like with any car, if you take it to the dealer you will get ripped on parts, be it a honda, ford, audi, bmw.
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Originally Posted by reechy
the $300 includes the motor. regulators alone are $60.
same bmw part with motor is $200
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Originally Posted by WiLL
...I really wanna get out and shoot people.
Originally Posted by Ochdx
Why not just compare the cost of each part integra vs 328? heh.
The fact is, Toyota could buy BMW, MB, WV, or any other car manufacturer for that matter, so Toyota > *
The fact is, Toyota could buy BMW, MB, WV, or any other car manufacturer for that matter, so Toyota > *
right how do you buy a company where the majority shares are owned by 1 family. by your logic MS > *
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Originally Posted by WiLL
...I really wanna get out and shoot people.
Originally Posted by DakarM
right how do you buy a company where the majority shares are owned by 1 family. by your logic MS > *


