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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Llamaguy
As for my parents, hell I won't care about the stuff like that. The CC companies can bill them all they want, but they're just going to be thrown away.
I suggest that you start caring about "stuff like that." If the credit card companies find out that the person they're billing is dead, the liability for payment falls onto the person's estate. They get their money before you get yours. Credit card debt (and all other forms of debt) don't simply disappear because someone dies.

Drawing up a will is so damn easy and cheap, and yet so many people just don't care to get it done. If you want to see a legal nightmare which gets drawn out over years, even decades, watch what happens to the estate of a person who dies without leaving a will. It's not pretty, and it literally tears families apart.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sids1045
IThey get their money before you get yours. Credit card debt (and all other forms of debt) don't simply disappear because someone dies.
I'm pretty sure my parents won't be leaving much in the way of money. My mother isn't very good at saving.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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this is one more reason government is corrupt bastards. These guys are worse than Herod of ancient Rome! They tax dead people! They tax and take a large percent of everything your father/mother own before you get it. They should not have the RIGHT!

I hate government. They need to just stay the fuck out of my life! I really don't need them to do shit for me except build roads and defend the fucking nation border lines. Join the revolution! www.revolutionaryleft.com
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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anything my parents have when they die that I want, will have been "given" to me shortly before they died.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sense-A
this is one more reason government is corrupt bastards. These guys are worse than Herod of ancient Rome! They tax dead people! They tax and take a large percent of everything your father/mother own before you get it. They should not have the RIGHT!

I hate government. They need to just stay the fuck out of my life! I really don't need them to do shit for me except build roads and defend the fucking nation border lines. Join the revolution! www.revolutionaryleft.com
Ehhh... credit card companies =! government

And yeah, the government taxes, and has the right to tax. If you don't want to pay taxes, move to someplace without a government :wavey: Pretty simple solution if you ask me.

And if you're bitching in the US, move to northern europe please. You will pay nearly up to 70% of your income there in taxes.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sense-A
this is one more reason government is corrupt bastards. These guys are worse than Herod of ancient Rome! They tax dead people! They tax and take a large percent of everything your father/mother own before you get it. They should not have the RIGHT!

I hate government. They need to just stay the fuck out of my life! I really don't need them to do shit for me except build roads and defend the fucking nation border lines. Join the revolution! www.revolutionaryleft.com
Fucking idiot
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sense-A
this is one more reason government is corrupt bastards. These guys are worse than Herod of ancient Rome! They tax dead people! They tax and take a large percent of everything your father/mother own before you get it. They should not have the RIGHT!

I hate government. They need to just stay the fuck out of my life! I really don't need them to do shit for me except build roads and defend the fucking nation border lines. Join the revolution! www.revolutionaryleft.com
Are you always this clueless? You complain about confiscatory taxes in the US (which is certainly a debatable issue), not realizing that Communism (which the revolutionaryleft.com web site espouses) confiscates wealth as a matter of policy. You want government to "stay the fuck out of my life," not realizing that Communism regulates your life in ways you never imagined as a US citizen. Cliff's Notes: You have no idea what you're talking about.

If you're so disgruntled with the US and so unappreciative of the freedoms you have for which thousands have died, leave. Let's see you move to a Communist country and spout "Join the revolution!" over there. You'll get very familiar with the inside of a jail cell.

Oh yeah...how exactly are we going to pay for the roads and the border defenses you want without taxes?

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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sids1045
I hate to spoil this party, but having gone through this with both my parents, you can't just help yourself to their possessions. It is literally NOT that simple. The DMV or whoever can't just hand over someone else's property to you.

The court appoints an executor for the estate, in keeping with the will of the deceased. If the person died intestate (without a will), the court will appoint someone (usually one of its clerks or officers) as executor. Under state law, only the executor has the power to dispose of the deceased's property.

You don't have to cancel your credit cards, charge accounts or memberships before you die. Your executor takes care of that. You don't have to sell or give away your possessions either. Your executor does that too.

If you want to be specific as to who your executor will be, and who gets your possessions, have a will drawn up. Lawyers who handle probate can help you, usually for a small fee. Don't wait until you're old. You can walk out your door tomorrow morning, be hit by a bus, and be on the other side before you know what hit you. Get it done...now. As long as the will is in proper legal form for your state, under the law the court has to honor the wishes expressed in it. Yes, you CAN control what happens to your stuff after you die.
truest shit spoken...



i thank god my mother had will drawn up (before she passed)
or else i would a have shot my brother and sister....


i just went to an estate planning seminar last week,
and plan on setting up a living trust "before the end of the year"..
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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well i'm not communist. I'm not wearing Che Guereva t-shirts. I'm more of an idealist. Meaning that I do not believe in government regulating everything in this country and the direction USA is headed I believe that to be the eventual outcome.

Look I'm not denying that USA is the best country in the world. Hell what do I know i've never left the country for more than a few days.

Yes taxes are neccesary. But double, triple, quadruple taxation is what is going on. I get taxed when i recieve my paycheck. My boss is taxed for giving me my paycheck. I am taxed for spending my paycheck. That is 3 taxes on my income right there. Let the state get some. Let the federal government get some. Let the local government get some. Oh let me pay tax on my property and vehicles and land too. I feel that there is no INCENTIVE for our government to be spending money EFFICIENTLY. I know DAMN well that the money isn't being spent efficiently because I worked at Dulles airport and watched toilet seats get installed 3 times over before the building was signed off. $3000 toilet seats, you better believe it!

And who's getting the breaks? large corporations getting billion dollar loans at 0-1% interest rates thats who. Look capitalism is okay. But there is a point where it starts getting shaky. Why are the hardest workers making the least. Wearing a suit and tie and learning how to brown nose and essentially become the MIDDLE MAN is what has become honorable in America. We live luxurious lives because third world countries are paying people $1 a day.

Okay I've already said too much. I am just ranting now. No one should agree on politics anyways thats just the way it is so I actually expect you to disagree with me or just not want to hear it.

Why should I leave? Maybe we should ALL leave since we stole the land from the native americans and wrote the constitution while our slaves were upkeeping our plantations we had extra time to powder our wigs.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sids1045
I suggest that you start caring about "stuff like that." If the credit card companies find out that the person they're billing is dead, the liability for payment falls onto the person's estate. They get their money before you get yours. Credit card debt (and all other forms of debt) don't simply disappear because someone dies.

Drawing up a will is so damn easy and cheap, and yet so many people just don't care to get it done. If you want to see a legal nightmare which gets drawn out over years, even decades, watch what happens to the estate of a person who dies without leaving a will. It's not pretty, and it literally tears families apart.
A will won't save you from going into probate.

A living trust however will.

But what do I know? I'm just a paralegal. h:
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