I started responding to RB's comment before yours was posted. If you want to apply the same principle then yes it would apply as well.



My argument is this. If we are now doing searches in subways to make sure that there are not terrorists going with bombs, what would you feel safer with? A. a totally random search in which a mother with three children is just as likely to be searched as someone from the demographic as all the recent terror attacks or B. search the people who fit the description of people who have been committing these terrorist attacks?

I'm with option B. I'm sure if you're life depended on it you're choice would be different.

 

nevermind just checked the link: yeah that's messed up that was quite selective of a selection of events

 

So if thats the case then why aren't they searching anyone fitting the description of an Irishman? The IRA has carried out attacks on US soil numerous times as well as many attacks in England and Ireland. This makes them international terrorists....yet we do not stop every mick on the street and randomly search them or check their identification.

Selective enforcement is racism....we saw it in WWII with the internment camps and we are headed that way at fulll speed and no brakes. You may be willing to sacrafice your civil liberties thinking they will be returned later when all is clear, but you know as well as I do that once you get something in your hands it is highly unlikely you are going to give up control of it very easily.

 

i think you're reaching out by trying to say we are headed in the direction of internment camps....

 

I dunno, I was watching the Fox News Report or one of those shows last night and the 2 conservative guys were talking about how we're in a war against terrorism and when you're in a war you have to give up freedoms and civil liberties. The first thing I thought of were the Japanese Internment camps in WW2. A little scary, I think.

 

For one it was an example of pastmistakes made in our own country to our own people. Many if not most of the Japanese who endured those camps and lost their businesses were legitimatley here under legal terms. They were singled out simply because they were Japanese and not because they had done anything wrong.

Now I am sure the argument will come up that they caught some spies and potential infiltrators. I agree they did do that, but the percentage was minute compared to the number forced to undergo these camps, lose businesses, houses, possessions, beatings, sub standard living conditions.

Does the capture of five people justify the condemning of a thousand? It seems to me that Sadaam used the same structure in the killing of 8,000 people in a single day because they "might" be against him.

 

"IRA has carried out attacks on US soil numerous times"

John, please tell me about these attacks will you? I can find nothing about even one so called attack on US soil by the IRA.

 

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I don't believe in coincidences.

If you want to get a bunch of money, you rob a bank, not a shoe store, because there is a lot more cash there.

At this point in time, the great majority of terrorist acts are by dark skin fellas with black hair. Whether it is Nuevo Laredo with the Mexican gangs, or in London with the Islamic extremist types. It seems logical that those are the folks you look at the most closely. Profiling is just going where the money is.

Everyone thinks like this, EVERYONE. For example, if you were down in the hood, anywhere, New York, LA, whatever, and a group of young males wearing red bandanas on there heads approached you, you are going to get nervous. If you say, "No I am cool with the homies, it would not bother me," you are either lying or stupid.

It is a waste of resources to be strip searching old white people at the airports and train stations, rather than the people that are doing these types of crimes. When the Gray Panthers start hijacking planes and blowing shit up, call me and I will be on it.

 

if my life depended on it, i would want them to search every single person. if you stick with one type of person to look for, that type of person will eventually catch on and find a different type of person to do their work.

i.e. say you have a guy that wants to plant a bomb somewhere. so he sends in middle eastern people with the bomb and they keep getting caught. he's eventually going to find a white person to take it in and not get caught.

if you hold to much to a pattern, the pattern becomes predictable, and circumvented.

so while profiling may be useful, it can't be the only way of doing it, because the people getting profiled will learn how to get around it, and if your still looking for the same type of people, you'll totally miss the others.