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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by b16aEGcivic
thats right bish...wned: :uhhok:
No I didn't write that to be mean. Just alot of people think that a set of tires is going to make them killer. Or a sway bar is going to make up 2 seconds. Nothing will drop your times more than just a school. Average time dropped is around 4-8 seconds for a typical newbie. Can't do that with $2000 Moton shocks.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CivicSiRacer
No I didn't write that to be mean. Just alot of people think that a set of tires is going to make them killer. Or a sway bar is going to make up 2 seconds. Nothing will drop your times more than just a school. Average time dropped is around 4-8 seconds for a typical newbie. Can't do that with $2000 Moton shocks.
oh I know man...I was just givin him some shit.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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Well the funny thing is that I've showed you how to setup your car Sean. You don't seem to take advice very well. You cannot run same pressures front and back. The car is just going to keep understeering which it's supposed to do for safety reasons.

The car is plenty capable of doing well in HS. You cannot expect to be all God powerful in HS your 1st year out. Expect to get your butt handed to you - I expect it once in awhile too. Attend an autocross school and it will do wonders for you and your car. To become good at autocrossing you need at least 1-2 years behind the wheel. You've done like 5 events?

Remember Autocross is 90% driver, 5% car and 5% luck. You think it's 90% car/tire, 10% driver. I've done over 150-200 autocrosses in 5 years. That's almost 30-40 autocrosses per year. Not to boast but right now I know I can jump in just about any car (that I've never driven before) and drive it as good as the owner if not better.

That's where you need to be. You can buy $900 Hoosiers, $600 Konis, and still get beat by the same Minis, Lancers, and other HS cars if you don't listen to advice.
Mike... I ran 44/42 the first event and ran into the same issues. I know its 90% driver, and my plan every event is to finish killing as few cones as possible and improving my time.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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wait, are you trying to kill understeer by a 2psi difference in tire pressure? I usually run Kumho 712s at 44psi up front and 711's at 38psi out back. So thats a 6psi difference on top of a major difference in sidewall stiffness.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by white_n_slow
wait, are you trying to kill understeer by a 2psi difference in tire pressure? I usually run Kumho 712s at 44psi up front and 711's at 38psi out back. So thats a 6psi difference on top of a major difference in sidewall stiffness.
Yeah I told him the same thin in PM.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CivicSiRacer
Well the funny thing is that I've showed you how to setup your car Sean. You don't seem to take advice very well. You cannot run same pressures front and back. The car is just going to keep understeering which it's supposed to do for safety reasons.

The car is plenty capable of doing well in HS. You cannot expect to be all God powerful in HS your 1st year out. Expect to get your butt handed to you - I expect it once in awhile too. Attend an autocross school and it will do wonders for you and your car. To become good at autocrossing you need at least 1-2 years behind the wheel. You've done like 5 events?

Remember Autocross is 90% driver, 5% car and 5% luck. You think it's 90% car/tire, 10% driver. I've done over 150-200 autocrosses in 5 years. That's almost 30-40 autocrosses per year. Not to boast but right now I know I can jump in just about any car (that I've never driven before) and drive it as good as the owner if not better.

That's where you need to be. You can buy $900 Hoosiers, $600 Konis, and still get beat by the same Minis, Lancers, and other HS cars if you don't listen to advice.

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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by white_n_slow
wait, are you trying to kill understeer by a 2psi difference in tire pressure? I usually run Kumho 712s at 44psi up front and 711's at 38psi out back. So thats a 6psi difference on top of a major difference in sidewall stiffness.
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Yeah I told him the same thin in PM.
Thanks again for the advice... I'll try 46/40 the next event, lets see how it goes.

I can't wait a month... I need an event now...
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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if you want to get a handle on your tire pressures before the next event, do a few runs in an empty parking lot somewhere to get a feel for what pressures you should be running. If the car still understeers bad, don't be afraid to drop the rear pressure even more than 6psi. If I had the same tires front and rear, what I'd be running now would probably be equivalent to a 12psi difference or more.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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Next event is April 17, I really want to get a handle on the car before the summer rush kicks in. I am still considering another car, something I can autox so that I can daily drive the Accord.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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you can autocross and daily drive the same car... I've been doing it for 3 years. h:
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