SCCA Airbag advisory?
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SCCA Airbag advisory?
http://www.scca.com/_Filelibrary/Fil...agAdvisory.pdf
Cross posting to the Track forum... maybe Rick or Mike can clarify this.
Cross posting to the Track forum... maybe Rick or Mike can clarify this.
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I don't get whats not to understand about it.
Airbag deploys pushing helmet up from chin protector dragging the jaw with the strap. Strap is moving at high velocity and causes breaks and fractures to jaw.
Seems clear to me and quite logical actually.
Airbag deploys pushing helmet up from chin protector dragging the jaw with the strap. Strap is moving at high velocity and causes breaks and fractures to jaw.
Seems clear to me and quite logical actually.
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Originally Posted by Luke Nightshader
I don't get whats not to understand about it.
Airbag deploys pushing helmet up from chin protector dragging the jaw with the strap. Strap is moving at high velocity and causes breaks and fractures to jaw.
Seems clear to me and quite logical actually.
Airbag deploys pushing helmet up from chin protector dragging the jaw with the strap. Strap is moving at high velocity and causes breaks and fractures to jaw.
Seems clear to me and quite logical actually.
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It has been brought to the attention of SCCA Technical Services that the use
of full-face or closed-face helmets while driving vehicles with active airbag
restraint systems may result in injuries in the event of a crash that deploys
the airbag. Because of the location of the steering wheel relative to a
driver’s position, the airbag axis is on a level with the driver’s chin. In a
crash with airbag deployment, contact with the chin area of a full-face
helmet can be so powerful “that the risk of fractures to the jaw cannot be
ruled out“ (Hubert Gramling, FIA Institute, FT3/AF, 18.5.1999). This applies
to vehicle that may be used in Solo, RallyCross, High Performance Car
Control Clinics, etc.
Therefore, it is highly recommended that full-face helmets not be used in
vehicles with functional airbag systems. Potentially more restrictive language
is currently being considered for 2005, which could appear in an early 2005
issue of FasTrack. If you have any questions, please contact the SCCA at
(800) 770-2055.
It has been brought to the attention of SCCA Technical Services that the use
of full-face or closed-face helmets while driving vehicles with active airbag
restraint systems may result in injuries in the event of a crash that deploys
the airbag. Because of the location of the steering wheel relative to a
driver’s position, the airbag axis is on a level with the driver’s chin. In a
crash with airbag deployment, contact with the chin area of a full-face
helmet can be so powerful “that the risk of fractures to the jaw cannot be
ruled out“ (Hubert Gramling, FIA Institute, FT3/AF, 18.5.1999). This applies
to vehicle that may be used in Solo, RallyCross, High Performance Car
Control Clinics, etc.
Therefore, it is highly recommended that full-face helmets not be used in
vehicles with functional airbag systems. Potentially more restrictive language
is currently being considered for 2005, which could appear in an early 2005
issue of FasTrack. If you have any questions, please contact the SCCA at
(800) 770-2055.
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hmm I recall they were going to ban open face helmets not closed face helmets.
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Originally Posted by axemansean
No I understood the logics, I was wondering whether all regions would now require open face helmets. I was going to purchase a full face helmet, but now I'll wait until further clarification.
read it again. it's not a requirement yet.
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Originally Posted by DaKarMaul
hmm I recall they were going to ban open face helmets not closed face helmets.
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Originally Posted by CivicSiRacer
I heard that too. I'm not too concerned about this. As you can disable the airbags in most cars.
yep as simple as pulling a fuse
and since I already have my SRS light on I'm not worried about the SRS light
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