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why does subaru insist on keeping the "boxer" engine?

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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Default why does subaru insist on keeping the "boxer" engine?

is it "better" than traditional engines? cheaper to produce? i dont understand why they dont just switch to a traditional engine style like everyone else. and i wonder if they could make a V formation with those engines





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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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It packages better I think, and it has better vibration characteristics.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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Are you saying that it's no good? Why does Porsche use it in their cars?


All boxer engines, regardless of no. of cylinders, provide perfect balance because the movement of a piston is exactly counter by the corresponding piston in another bank.

However, they are too wide for good packaging, and is more expensive due to more parts used, thus the usage is limited to Porsche and Subaru today.

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by OLDMAN
However, they are too wide for good packaging, and is more expensive due to more parts used, thus the usage is limited to Porsche and Subaru today.
I always thought the packaging was nice in a Subaru because the engine sits kind of low in the car and the intercooler, turbo, and accessories all sit on top.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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i know a bit of how they work and horizontal opposed engines seem more efficient also...seems like less stress also. course i have no clue what im talking about so ill just sit back and watch
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Kestrel
I always thought the packaging was nice in a Subaru because the engine sits kind of low in the car and the intercooler, turbo, and accessories all sit on top.
it does lower the center of gravity, which is usually good
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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I love the sound those engines make.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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to answer davos question on why, it's probably because it's what their good at. Just like BMW is great with their I-6. Subaru and porsche have been using the boxer design for a long time now so that is what they're good at developing.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kestrel
I always thought the packaging was nice in a Subaru because the engine sits kind of low in the car and the intercooler, turbo, and accessories all sit on top.
Yea, first time I saw one like that I was confused.

Guy opened up the hood and was like "hey hey look at that!! nice huh?"

"nice? wtf is that? it's just a bunch of hoses and wires, where's the engine?"

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"boxer n00b, it's underneath it!"
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kestrel
It packages better I think, and it has better vibration characteristics.
:werd:

It fits nicely in the engine bay leaving plenty of room for the turbo system components. Plus the engine sitting lower in the car lowers the center of gravity, thus improving handling characteristics.

Originally Posted by DaKarMaul
to answer davos question on why, it's probably because it's what their good at. Just like BMW is great with their I-6. Subaru and porsche have been using the boxer design for a long time now so that is what they're good at developing.
:werd: again. Honda is great at making small displacement, fuel efficient engines. Do we see them manufacturing 7 liter V8's for production? Nope. Companies find a niche in the market that they can call their own, and that's what they continue to improve upon.
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