Incorrect? Not exactly. I'd characterize it more as "incomplete." You are correct that there is some assumption necessary unless I stop and poll every driver. But it is a REASONABLE ASSUMPTION that a significant proportion of bright lights are due to deliberate modification. Can you seriously be disputing this?

If I drop a rock over a cliff, and a few moments later I hear a rock hit the bottom, I ASSUME the sound came from my rock. I suppose it's POSSIBLE that there was someone with a catcher's mitt and a different rock halfway down the cliff who substituted rocks in midflight. But it's not likely enough to make it necessary to check every time.

Back to the lights now - there is a thriving market in bright bulbs and "rebased" or full-on HID conversions. And there are cars driving around with lights significantly brighter than stock. What's the more reasonable assumption - that all these cars have aiming problems and the people buying those light kits are hanging them on their living room walls for decoration? Or that people are installing them in their cars and driving? If you say "we can't know" you're technically correct in a limited sort of way, but by those standards of universal doubt we can't know ANYTHING. You can't know, for example, that someone didn't sneak into your house while you were asleep, steal everything, and replace it all with exact replicas. You just assume it didn't happen.

There's really no reason to take that attitude. All *I* asked in the original post was, why do people put really bright lights in their cars, and do they get hassled by the cops if they're overbright. Nowhere in that post did I say that ALL bright lights are too bright for me, and if you came away with that, well, who's making assumptions? Some are, some aren't. The question of whether a given light is legal is for the cops to decide, and that's why I asked if people are hassled by the cops.

We're in agreement that some people put bright lights in their cars. We're in agreement that some of those are done poorly or inconsiderately and create a problem for other drivers. So I really don't see why you think it's necessary to flip me off.

I appreciate that - but mine's an E39. Different altogether.

 

please, lets minimize the flaming here.


HIDs > Silverstars > all "bright" halogens :fawk:

 

People get hassled by cops because there is too much glare. It looks "overbright" because of the glare. Aim and concentrate the light from the HID bulb down a bit and it will look normal again. And a lot of people can't or won't aim their bulbs. This is why it is illegal for any car to have aftermarket HID's of any kind in any state. If it did not come stock with the car, it is illegal. But most cops don't care unless u blind the shit out of them.

 

That sounds pretty sensible.

 

no, but that isn't what i said, is it?

i don't know where you're getting this 'unreasonable' assumpsion, as i never said that "all of these cars", or even a slight majority are aiming problems. i merely suggested it as another possible factor.

well, that's more of an existential than a causal type of assumption, but sure, you're absolutely right. you should take some philosophy classes. that shit changes the way you think about things, even if it is the most boring subject on earth

actually, nowhere in my post did i say, imply, or suggest anything like that, so who's making assumptions? not me!

oh no, i used the :fawk: smiley. oh crap! i just used it again... get a sense of humor

i never said anything about reasonable assumptions. in fact, i was never arguing that your assumptions were unreasonable - just that they were assumptions. you noticed that yes, we do happen to agree on most points. but see, i prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt, rather than assume they're doing something wrong intentionally right off the bat. i'd consider that maybe they're not just some punk ricer who doesn't give a shit about the other drivers on the road, because i know plenty of people look at me and my car (and my friends and their cars) and think the same thing. would you appreciate that kind of rush to judgement?

 

Hey dwasifar, you are blowing this way out of proportion! You wanted opinions, you got them! Bottom line, this little revolution you are trying to create here isn't going over very well with some people because they simply don't understand your take, and frankly neither do I. Lights are bright everywhere you look, even at a baseball or football stadiums, but you don't sit in the seats staring at the lights???? So there is really nothing you can do about it. It is one of those things that you are just going to have to live with. By taking off your HID's off your HIDS on your E36, that will not make a single difference!

 

Is there some other dwasifar posting here besides me?

 

Ok, look. Will it make you happy if I rephrase the original question thus:

"Why do those people who put very bright lights in their cars ON PURPOSE do it?"

This eliminates all the people who have aiming problems and all the people who put in brighter lights than they intended to, leaving only the intentionals, which was the only group I was talking about in the first place. Sorry I didn't spell it out from the outset and avoid all this dissembling.

 

well since we are on the subject of bulbs:
I know some guy who has those hiper white blinkers on his civic. However his actually has a blue tint to them. He said he wrapped them in some blue film so you don't have that slight amber color to them. Does anyone know about this, or where to get them? And no I'm not talking about those cheap tinted rubber things they sell at AutoZone.

yeah, i asked him where he got his, but the shop he got it from don't carry them before.
sorry for the thread highjack.

 

Be careful doing that. Many cops will pull you over the second they find out your turn signals are not amber/red.