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Originally Posted by White[Pony]
I'll agree with that. For newer muscle cars that is.
If you're like me, on the other hand. It doesn't particularly matter who makes it, because you can get major power out of any late-60's, early-70's shell.
I prefer the Barracuda, Charger, and Challenger myself. Or a '65-ish Mustang Fastback. Last on my list would be a Camaro, though. 1st gen just doesn't do it for me. Of course it'll be a while until I can get any one of those anyway. heh
If you're like me, on the other hand. It doesn't particularly matter who makes it, because you can get major power out of any late-60's, early-70's shell.
I prefer the Barracuda, Charger, and Challenger myself. Or a '65-ish Mustang Fastback. Last on my list would be a Camaro, though. 1st gen just doesn't do it for me. Of course it'll be a while until I can get any one of those anyway. heh
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From: nor cal
i agree with everything 400rwhpfirebird said in his post
and to compare a cobra or a rousche to a z28 or SS isn't fair because of the F/I on the cobra (and i think the rouche too).
could you imagine if chevy mass produced a super/turbocharged LS1 in a camaro?
they'd probably be putting out somewhere in the area of 400-450 HP and probably 450-500 ft/lbs of tq.
i don't know why they haven't done that anyway.
granted the camaro has been outa production for a few years, i'd sure hope that they consider this at least as competition for the SVT cobras and such when the introduce the camaro back into the assembly line.
anyway, chevy>ford
and to compare a cobra or a rousche to a z28 or SS isn't fair because of the F/I on the cobra (and i think the rouche too).
could you imagine if chevy mass produced a super/turbocharged LS1 in a camaro?
they'd probably be putting out somewhere in the area of 400-450 HP and probably 450-500 ft/lbs of tq.
i don't know why they haven't done that anyway.
granted the camaro has been outa production for a few years, i'd sure hope that they consider this at least as competition for the SVT cobras and such when the introduce the camaro back into the assembly line.
anyway, chevy>ford
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From: Baltimore, MD
Originally Posted by 400rwhpFirebird
Ford sucks and this is why...
They simply cant match the power of any GM sports car...a new 2003 GT is slower than a 93 Camaro Z28. Now thats just sad...an 11 yr old car is faster than a basically new car. Heres the stats on Mustangs vs Camaros...
1993-1997 Chevy V8's.....285HP
1994-1998 Ford V8's.......215HP
(V6 Firebirds and Camaros have been known to out run a 1994-1998 Mustang GT...thats sad)
1998-2002 Chevy V8's.....~340HP (GM underates them at 305 HP but they really put out around 340HP, GM does this in order to sell the Corvette)
1999-2003 Ford V8's.......260HP
:rofl: (a lightly modded V6 Camaro or Firebird could run this generation Ford V8)
If you want to bring the Roushes and Cobras and everything into it, theyre in the same category as the Corvette and 405 HP Z06, which would kick their a** too.
Bottom line...if you want real performance, buy GM...
Whenever i see a Mustang i always look expecting to find a girl with one of them hula looking things hanging down from the mirror...
They simply cant match the power of any GM sports car...a new 2003 GT is slower than a 93 Camaro Z28. Now thats just sad...an 11 yr old car is faster than a basically new car. Heres the stats on Mustangs vs Camaros...
1993-1997 Chevy V8's.....285HP
1994-1998 Ford V8's.......215HP
(V6 Firebirds and Camaros have been known to out run a 1994-1998 Mustang GT...thats sad)
1998-2002 Chevy V8's.....~340HP (GM underates them at 305 HP but they really put out around 340HP, GM does this in order to sell the Corvette)
1999-2003 Ford V8's.......260HP
:rofl: (a lightly modded V6 Camaro or Firebird could run this generation Ford V8)If you want to bring the Roushes and Cobras and everything into it, theyre in the same category as the Corvette and 405 HP Z06, which would kick their a** too.
Bottom line...if you want real performance, buy GM...
Whenever i see a Mustang i always look expecting to find a girl with one of them hula looking things hanging down from the mirror...
Engines:
3.8 V6 200 bhp.
Z28: LS1 5.7 V8 310 bhp @ 5200 rpm, 335 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm.
SS: LS1 5.7 V8 320 bhp @ 5200 rpm, 345 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm.
Performance:
Z28(3439 lbs): 0-60 in 5.5 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.0 seconds @ 101.3 mph.
SS(3439 lbs): 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, 1/4 mile in 13.7 seconds @ 105.6 mph.
2001-2002 Mustang:
Engine:
GT: 4.6 V8 260 bhp @ 5250 rpm, 302 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
SVT Cobra4.6 V8 320 bhp @ 6000 rpm,317 lb-ft @ 4750 rpm
Performance:
GT(3113lbs) : 0-60 in 5.7 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.1 sec @ 99 mph
SVT Cobra(3472 lbs): 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, 1/4 mile in 13.5 sec @ 105 mph
hfawk:corvette owns both tho
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From: Bremerton, WA
Originally Posted by LABARINTH
2001-2002 Camaro:
Engines:
3.8 V6 200 bhp.
Z28: LS1 5.7 V8 310 bhp @ 5200 rpm, 335 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm.
SS: LS1 5.7 V8 320 bhp @ 5200 rpm, 345 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm.
Performance:
Z28(3439 lbs): 0-60 in 5.5 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.0 seconds @ 101.3 mph.
SS(3439 lbs): 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, 1/4 mile in 13.7 seconds @ 105.6 mph.
Engines:
3.8 V6 200 bhp.
Z28: LS1 5.7 V8 310 bhp @ 5200 rpm, 335 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm.
SS: LS1 5.7 V8 320 bhp @ 5200 rpm, 345 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm.
Performance:
Z28(3439 lbs): 0-60 in 5.5 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.0 seconds @ 101.3 mph.
SS(3439 lbs): 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, 1/4 mile in 13.7 seconds @ 105.6 mph.
SS(3540 lbs): 0-60 in ~4.6 seconds, 1/4 mile in 13.1 seconds @ 108.7 mph.
Ask me how I know....
