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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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heres my list...

GM: fiero/LT1
Honda: 84-87 CRX/ B-series
Nissan: 240sx/RB25det or 510/sr20det (not a fan of the rotary 510)
Ford: sierra cosworth or merkur XR4TI/302
Hyundai: excel/4G63
Toyota: IS300 or altezza/2jz
Lotus: elise/b-series
Volkswagen: beetle/chevy large block
BMW: 318ti/e46

thas all i can think of right now... what are your favorites?
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Lotus: elise/b-series

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You mean Elise/K-series, right?
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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nope, sun motorsports (<--i think) swaps in a B18c5 and sells them for $40k.

the k series wouldn't be much of a swap, since thats what the car comes with
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by white_n_slow
nope, sun motorsports (<--i think) swaps in a B18c5 and sells them for $40k.

the k series wouldn't be much of a swap, since thats what the car comes with
Umm... no, you have that really wrong...

What they are going to come with in the US market is a modified Celica GT-S engine... what Sun Motorsports does is swap in the K20 from the ITR into those with tuning and a modified header, putting out nearly 250whp

K20>>>>B18C5
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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Sun International is long since out of business. They used to do a conversion of the 1st gen Elise with a B18C5.

Lotus sells the Elise in other markets with a Rover K-Series engine. Prototype Racing converts Elise-based cars to a Honda K-Series engine but the cars aren't typically street legal.

Lotus just came out with a version of the Elise called the 111R which uses a Toyota 2ZZ-GE engine from the Celica GT-S but it has a Lotus ECU and supposedly puts out 189 hp. It will be on sale in the USA shortly.
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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ummm.. the EDM Lotus engine is a K-series (not honda).

...and i dunno what sun is doing now, but they DEFINITELY swapped b18c5s into the elise

:edit: mrgaybooty beat me to it h:
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Damn RR and Honda both having a K-series that can fit into both cars...

Sorry for being retarded on that one... and yeah, it was prototype racing (Shoulda checked my bookmarks before spoutin off)
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by white_n_slow
ummm.. the EDM Lotus engine is a K-series (not honda).

...and i dunno what sun is doing now, but they DEFINITELY swapped b18c5s into the elise

:edit: mrgaybooty beat me to it h:

like booty said, sun is out of business and has been for a while. also prototyperacing is the one that designed the b series into a elise which sun essentially stole (since prototyperacing was not paid for doing it)

the owner of prototype has swapped a k20A into a S1 exige and has been testing it for a long time
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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cool stuff... most manufacturers are too pussy to build light cars anymore.

BTW, the new USDM lotus betrays its roots... who the **** wants power windows in an Elise :wtf:
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by white_n_slow
cool stuff... most manufacturers are too pussy to build light cars anymore.

BTW, the new USDM lotus betrays its roots... who the **** wants power windows in an Elise :wtf:
People who don't understand the true beauty of that machine, which includes about 99.99% of the US market
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