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A little chin music
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Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
I know full well that the Autobahn is the german equivalent of our interstate system. Last time I checked there are plenty more roads in our country than just the interstates and there are plenty more roads in Germany than just the Autobahn.
Originally Posted by sxecrow
Sure there is. The US spends an ungodly amount of money in military spending and intelligence. Our spending is far far far far far beyond everyone else. The next highest is like 15x less in what we spend. I know the need for military spending and intelligence is important, but if we took 5% ... just 5% of what we spend on military budget, we would have a drastic improvement on our roads, schools, etc.
Originally Posted by DVPGSR
A better idea is to follow what the Europeans do and nationalize the interstate system and charge a yearly per-car tax to drive on the roads so each car needs a sticker to drive on the highways. That money would then be used to maintain the roads.
I'd love to see the US adopt an Autobahn style concept, but without the funding, and definitely without improvements in driver training and regulation, it's not going to happen.
A little chin music
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The basic fundamental of the passion of driving is just different. German citizens are as active in maintaining the Autobahn as you could imagine. It's in their heart. No kidding. I've heard where the average German would be very sad to the point of crying if national speed limits were enacted. It's part of their heratige now. And it shows in their cars. German cars, as we all have known for a while, are designed and engineered for Autobahn performance. But it's more than that. They are proud of their passion, and it shows in the craftsmanship of their cars.
I think you're idealizing this a bit too much. In fact you're advocating nationalization of something over states' rights and increased taxes. Isn't that a bit out of sync with your political agenda at large?
Originally Posted by Kestrel
An issue with nationalizing the highway system is states vs. federal government rights. The states want to retain some control over roads within their borders, hence why the interstate highway system was setup this way in the first place.
Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
I think you're idealizing this a bit too much. In fact you're advocating nationalization of something over states' rights and increased taxes. Isn't that a bit out of sync with your political agenda at large?
Oh I know exactly where you're coming from. Having an autobahn-style highway system in this country would be great. I'm simply noting the contrast between what it would take to create that system, and the ideals of the Republican party. The entire reason Germany is able to implement such a system is because it is historically very socialist/populist. The ideology that facilitated the creation of their highway system which you love so much is in fact the exact opposite of what the party you guys are members of is all about. 
Of course the Democrats won't make an American autobahn either, because they're a bunch of regulatory safety-sissies.

Of course the Democrats won't make an American autobahn either, because they're a bunch of regulatory safety-sissies.
Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
Oh I know exactly where you're coming from. Having an autobahn-style highway system in this country would be great. I'm simply noting the contrast between what it would take to create that system, and the ideals of the Republican party. The entire reason Germany is able to implement such a system is because it is historically very socialist/populist. The ideology that facilitated the creation of their highway system which you love so much is in fact the exact opposite of what the party you guys are members of is all about. 
Of course the Democrats won't make an American autobahn either, because they're a bunch of regulatory safety-sissies.

Of course the Democrats won't make an American autobahn either, because they're a bunch of regulatory safety-sissies.
I can have my moderate moments though
A little chin music
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From: Cleveland, Ohio - Rock 'n Roll capitol of the World
Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
I think you're idealizing this a bit too much. In fact you're advocating nationalization of something over states' rights and increased taxes. Isn't that a bit out of sync with your political agenda at large?
I can have my cake and eat it too.


