Notices
The Basement Non-Honda/Acura discussion. Content should be tasteful and "primetime" safe.

Any guys here been to boot camp or work security?

Thread Tools
 
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 02:07 PM
  #1  
evolution's Avatar
evolution
Thread Starter
早晨好, 先生們!™ 粉腸+ 春袋
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 8,730
Likes: 0
From: Toronto
Default Any guys here been to boot camp or work security?

How is the training?

I just finished a day of written stuff for customs inspector/airport security and will be invited to an 8-week training session in Quebec. The only description on the sheet was that we would be taught how to handle security matters and learn some personal defense. They also said we better be in good physical condition because there will be workouts. I'm guessing it will be a few steps lower than basic bootcamp for grunts.

Pays decently, but just looks nice on resume so I can get the position I want in the british forces. Kind of a pre-military training I hope.

Can you guys share your experiences with "boot camp?"
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 02:19 PM
  #2  
ManInCamo's Avatar
ManInCamo
Old School Crew
 
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 5,251
Likes: 0
Default

Its.... an experience


'bootcamp' as you call it... for the military isn't as much physical as you think it is. Yea, you run a lot, and do a lot of pushup, situps etc... but thats the least of your worries when you there. Its mainly mental. More mental stress, break you down so they can mold you to work how they want you to, and to build team cohesion.


Going into the mental aspects of it, they wake you up 0350 (thats 3:50 am for you civilians) blasting "Reville" and coming into your dorm area (where you're sleeping with 50 other guys) screaming and shouting at you to get your shit togeather and downstairs. Trust me... you don't get used to it. Although you will start waking up at 0330 and other periodic times throughout the night (I have a real fear of "Reville" now, no joke)

beyond that, no matter what you do its wrong, even if its right, they'll find something wrong. You're always being yelled at for everything -- just about. Sometimes you'll do good and you'll get a verbal praise, but don't count on it too often. The movies actually portray boot camp fairly well.

That said, I was in my physical prime at 'boot camp' from the pushups/situp/running/physical fitness test

We'd do several hundred pushups/situps a day, and run a few miles every morning. Everyweek we had physical fitness tests.



My guess is that any version of Airport security will be more bookwork and education than anything, and probably very far from real military training. Try it out, why not.

"Airport Security" won't mean shit to a real military unit. Everyone starts out at the bottom in the military, and its how you perform there as to how you advance.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 03:01 PM
  #3  
umop-apisdn's Avatar
umop-apisdn
Allergic to vitamin D
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,032
Likes: 0
From: Earth
Default

0350? What time is lights out?
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 03:07 PM
  #4  
b_dyche's Avatar
b_dyche
owned by a 9 car pile-up
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,371
Likes: 0
From: Everett, WA
Default

Originally posted by ManInCamo
Its.... an experience


'bootcamp' as you call it... for the military isn't as much physical as you think it is. Yea, you run a lot, and do a lot of pushup, situps etc... but thats the least of your worries when you there. Its mainly mental. More mental stress, break you down so they can mold you to work how they want you to, and to build team cohesion.


Going into the mental aspects of it, they wake you up 0350 (thats 3:50 am for you civilians) blasting "Reville" and coming into your dorm area (where you're sleeping with 50 other guys) screaming and shouting at you to get your shit togeather and downstairs. Trust me... you don't get used to it. Although you will start waking up at 0330 and other periodic times throughout the night (I have a real fear of "Reville" now, no joke)

beyond that, no matter what you do its wrong, even if its right, they'll find something wrong. You're always being yelled at for everything -- just about. Sometimes you'll do good and you'll get a verbal praise, but don't count on it too often. The movies actually portray boot camp fairly well.

That said, I was in my physical prime at 'boot camp' from the pushups/situp/running/physical fitness test

We'd do several hundred pushups/situps a day, and run a few miles every morning. Everyweek we had physical fitness tests.



My guess is that any version of Airport security will be more bookwork and education than anything, and probably very far from real military training. Try it out, why not.

"Airport Security" won't mean shit to a real military unit. Everyone starts out at the bottom in the military, and its how you perform there as to how you advance.

Originally posted by umop-apisdn
0350? What time is lights out?
2200 according to the paper... usually around 2330 b/c someone screwed up late and we "get beat" right after hygiene, so we "go to bed with sweaty balls"

ROTC is a bit different from active duty enlisted; our "on the books" wake-up was at 0600, but our RDC's ran the paperwork for early lights... so 0430 on a regular day, 0330 on a 3-a-day PT schedule...

but yeah, it's all about the mental part, and as MIC said, anything you do as a civillian is far from the physical part of military training, seeing that you'll basically have a lot more course time, and less physical time... I see a lot of grossly overweight security people... h:`
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 03:27 PM
  #5  
Dorikin's Avatar
Dorikin
530i
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,418
Likes: 0
Default

My uncle works customs at pearson.

He says if you have half a brain, you can be a supervisor.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 03:35 PM
  #6  
evolution's Avatar
evolution
Thread Starter
早晨好, 先生們!™ 粉腸+ 春袋
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 8,730
Likes: 0
From: Toronto
Default

Originally posted by Dorikin
My uncle works customs at pearson.

He says if you have half a brain, you can be a supervisor.
haha, yeah that's where i'm scheduled to go.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 03:36 PM
  #7  
flipped cracka's Avatar
flipped cracka
BOOM goes the dynamite!
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 27,571
Likes: 1
From: in a van down by the rive
Default

i remember boot camp. it was pretty easy, but physical.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 04:00 PM
  #8  
ManInCamo's Avatar
ManInCamo
Old School Crew
 
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 5,251
Likes: 0
Default

Originally posted by umop-apisdn
0350? What time is lights out?
like b_dyche said, we're supposed to go to bed 2130-2200 depending on what we did that day...

One time, this Major came down from upstairs, we did pushups for 30 minutes B/C people were talking and not sleeping.


We had a MANDITORY 30 min shower/personal hygene time each night... and usually went to bed clean. They got sick of smelling us. This was in Lackand AFB (San Antonion TX) it got hot.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 06:02 PM
  #9  
supermac88's Avatar
supermac88
not OG but Old School
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,998
Likes: 0
From: Decatur, IN
Default

I am looking into being a cop and every cop I haved talked to that came from the military says that the academy is a cake walk compared to basic. I did 16 weeks of One station unit training at Ft. Knox Kentucky in the dead of winter, so academy should be no problem. Now keep in mind this is to be a police officer not security, so imagine how much difference there is between basic, and security.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 11:35 PM
  #10  
evolution's Avatar
evolution
Thread Starter
早晨好, 先生們!™ 粉腸+ 春袋
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 8,730
Likes: 0
From: Toronto
Default

Originally posted by supermac88
I am looking into being a cop and every cop I haved talked to that came from the military says that the academy is a cake walk compared to basic. I did 16 weeks of One station unit training at Ft. Knox Kentucky in the dead of winter, so academy should be no problem. Now keep in mind this is to be a police officer not security, so imagine how much difference there is between basic, and security.
Well this isn't exactly basic security, it is customs inspection so I guess there will be an emphasis on analysis skills and stuff. I just hope they have basic gun training.
Reply




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:06 PM.