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why does Pontiac say the Grand Prix is the most powerful car in its class?

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Old 11-30-2003, 08:10 AM
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Old 11-30-2003, 08:12 AM
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Ever seen slightly tuned GTP's run at the track? They're fairly quick (low 14s, high 13s)
Old 11-30-2003, 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by redgoober4life
Ever seen slightly tuned GTP's run at the track? They're fairly quick (low 14s, high 13s)
stock maximas will run low 14's
Old 11-30-2003, 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by antennas up
stock maximas will run low 14's
I think I'd rather have a GTP than a Maxima SE. But, that's just me.
Old 11-30-2003, 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by redgoober4life
I think I'd rather have a GTP than a Maxima SE. But, that's just me.
disgree. And drive a brand new or 2002 Maxima SE in 6-speed and you may have a differing opinion.

Unless you have already driven an SE maxima than i retract my previous statement. But have you driven the new Grand Prix???
Old 11-30-2003, 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by honda_pilot
disgree. And drive a brand new or 2002 Maxima SE in 6-speed and you may have a differing opinion.

Unless you have already driven an SE maxima than i retract my previous statement. But have you driven the new Grand Prix???
I don't care for the new Grand Prix, but the 97'+ are fairly nice. I haven't driven a manual Maxima, but I have driven autos. I don't know, quality for quality they felt about the same.
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Originally posted by IamNemo
They used to make good cars but I hate them now.

They did???? WHEN???
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Originally posted by honda_pilot
disgree. And drive a brand new or 2002 Maxima SE in 6-speed and you may have a differing opinion.

Unless you have already driven an SE maxima than i retract my previous statement. But have you driven the new Grand Prix???
a VQ35DE maxima with a 6 speed is a pleasure to drive. i miss living at home because my folks had a 2002. if pontiac made the grand prx with a manual, it might be different, i dont know. boost is fun though, but ive driven both and the maxima is a much better driving experience imo
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Originally posted by redgoober4life


I don't care for the new Grand Prix, but the 97'+ are fairly nice. I haven't driven a manual Maxima, but I have driven autos. I don't know, quality for quality they felt about the same.
Agreed. The previous gen Grand Prix was better looking. But quality is def. not a question between the two. Fit and finish on the Maxima is better two-fold. Exterior design even looks as though more time and effort was placed in to it.


Originally posted by antennas up
a VQ35DE maxima with a 6 speed is a pleasure to drive. i miss living at home because my folks had a 2002. if pontiac made the grand prx with a manual, it might be different, i dont know. boost is fun though, but ive driven both and the maxima is a much better driving experience imo
The VQ35 is a fine engine.
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Originally posted by honda_pilot
Agreed. The previous gen Grand Prix was better looking. But quality is def. not a question between the two. Fit and finish on the Maxima is better two-fold. Exterior design even looks as though more time and effort was placed in to it.




The VQ35 is a fine engine.
It is? The plastics in newer nissans is about a 8 on a 1-10 scale. New GP's? Er, 6. The seats in the Nissans after about 50k miles always look worn out and ragged. The stitching is horrible. Maxima: 4, Pontiac 5. The carpet in both has fairly low nap and wears out quicker than BMWs and VWs I've seen, so...5. I guess you win, this is just what I've noticed from detailing. I'm not even going to get into Nissan or GM leather, it's just--no. Now, both GM and Nissan need to work on their paint. A ton of problems with chipping for Nissans and orange peal on GMs. Not acceptable at all for newer cars. Oh well.

I must say it seems like the new Maxima took a dive. What is it? The old maximas used to be fun, the new one is boring. It's kind of like a 300M, it's an ok car but...why? There are so many better cars in the market for that amount of money I can't justify buying a Maxima.



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