End of August, car still sheets off pretty well. I just washed the car over the weekend with Mr. Clean auto dry...The car still looks nice and shiny, the only noticeable difference is that to my touch, I don't think the surface is slippery and smooth, but it does it's job at shining and keeping clean.

 

I thought it's suppose to bead?

all my PTFE resin ("teflon") pans bead up water.

 

I thought it's suppose to bead?

all my PTFE resin ("teflon") pans bead up water.



In the places where the water is stationary it will bead, but where the water will run, it will actually 'sheet' off of the car. You'll get the same effect if you hold the teflon pan sideways and spray the water on it, it will sheet off in a similar way. Also, the way that teflon is applied to steel pans is via high temperature so you get the permanent coating where as with 5 Star, the teflon is suspended in the polymer liquid that enables it to crosslink so go get a slightly different effect.

The biggest reason that you aren't seeing the type of beading is because of the Mr. Clean AutoDry system soap. I have the system and have experienced similar results. Here is what they say on their website:

"Does it leave a film behind? Does it affect the polish or the wax?
Mr. Clean AutoDry doesn't leave behind a film, just a thin layer of the Dry Rinse Polymer molecules that are replenished each time the car gets washed. These do not strip the wax, or harm the paint or clearcoat in any way.

Why are water beads not forming after I rinse?
The sheeting action of the Dry Rinse Polymer™ works with the Mr. Clean AutoDry Filter so that a thin layer of deionized water is left on the car's surface, which will quickly evaporate, leaving a spot-free result. Next time it rains, the beads will be back—and you get to wash again!"

So, yes, it is leaving some type of polymer 'film' in order for the de-ionized water to sheet dry without potential spots. Any wax or polymer etc. will be masked by this polymer that is left by the Mr. Clean Soap. The car is still protected.

I wouldn't recommend using the Mr. Clean soap, but just use the system with different car wash. People are mislead into thinking that the soap washes off.... It doesn't.


Hope that helps.
-Chad

 

I agree, I didn't like the soap, and Chad explained very well why.

I just wanted to try out the Mr. Clean system... from now on I'm gonna put Kit soap in it

I think I will write a review for the Autodry system soon...

 

Oh I didn't see that about Mr. Clean. Yeah, that soap is horrible.

Chad, do you warn about getting the finish wet in the first 24 hours? A little research on autopia and provided me with some new information about polymers, and that water can actually stock the crosslinking process all together. I don't know--seems like you'd be the person to ask, or the person that could ask somebody for me.

http://www.autopia.org/forums/showth...e&pagenumber=1

It seems as though crosslinking can occur up to a week. Highly unrealistic to not get a car wet for a week, but in testing, has water on say, 5 star that has been on the paint for a few hours, and then subjected to a down pour, been less durable than 5 star that has had 24 hours to a week left undisturbed by water?

 

Nice work Nelson. Great write-up! :goodjob:

 

Good thoughts/questions, thanks for the link. We haven't had any problems/complaints with the crosslinking issue you described. Most of the issues have to do with the time between layering polymer products such as Klasse or Zaino. With 5 Star, the crosslinking process takes 24-48 hours to occur. We assume that people would keep their cars from getting wet. If by chance there was a problem, it would be very noticeable in the first few washes and we would be able to get them out some more product if that was the case. But like I said, I've never had a customer with this issue since 5 Star doesn't need layering.

-Chad

-Chad

 

I was just wondering since you said it crosslinked with polymers.

I thought you'd like to be aware of that old thread anyway.

 

Here are recent links to nicoclub.com. They changed their software and some of the links didn't work. The discount code is still 'VIPDISCOUNTS'

http://www.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=45700
http://www.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=48193
http://www.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=37036
http://www.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=36827
http://www.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=44819
https://www.honda-acura.net/forums/s...d.php?t=149760
http://forums.thevboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=15985
http://forums.thevboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=17545
http://forums.clubsi.com/showf...5029&
http://forums.thevboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=15985
http://forums.thevboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=17545
http://forums.clubsi.com/showf...5029&

 

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