need help with my 97 prelude
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From: Seattle
Originally posted by sick79
you cant "smoke" him because he is putting out way more torque than your lude is. his car weighs 3250, yours' is probably 3000 lbs. 40 more ft lbs of torque is a big difference.
you cant "smoke" him because he is putting out way more torque than your lude is. his car weighs 3250, yours' is probably 3000 lbs. 40 more ft lbs of torque is a big difference.
it's called gear ratios, folks.
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yeah drift what are you talking about? If the mercedes has a nice flat torque curve it is able to put out most of its power all across the rpm range whereas the prelude has to really reach the high rpms before we can put some power to the ground. Torque makes a huge difference especially 40 ft lbs thats like 25% more than our stock torque.
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hp is a function of torque and RPM. So even if a car has 100 lb-ft of torque, but 240 hp, it means that it may take longer to make peak hp, but eventually the engine creates more power than a 185 hp 185 lb-ft torque engine. It's why japanese cars have "high end" power. a lude is faster than a p.o.s. c230 in the straights and in the curves, given the right transmission and driver.
the 40 lb-ft torque difference between an mbz and a lude only matters off the line, where your RPM's will be at their lowest. if you hit redline and shift quickly, your next gear should be engaging while the engine is at 5500 rpm, which is of course the sweet spot, and your low torque, high hp engine won't have to worry about not having low end torque. for the most part, it IS all about gear ratios and final drive.
on mbz: even AMG models are worthless because MBZ refuses to put a real transmission in their "sports sedans" i'm sorry but i will never ever ever want to drive a 550 hp "manumatic" because i'd rather not let a torque converter and a computer decide how much power i want to put down and when. don't let the mbz drivers convince you otherwise--they're not sports cars, they're high speed soccer mom vehicles and an utter waste of money if you care the least bit about performance. it's sad to see BMW following suit with all of their "paddle shifters" and CVT's.
they want me to spend 120,000 on a new 6 series, but not give me a proper 6speed transmission?
never.
the 40 lb-ft torque difference between an mbz and a lude only matters off the line, where your RPM's will be at their lowest. if you hit redline and shift quickly, your next gear should be engaging while the engine is at 5500 rpm, which is of course the sweet spot, and your low torque, high hp engine won't have to worry about not having low end torque. for the most part, it IS all about gear ratios and final drive.
on mbz: even AMG models are worthless because MBZ refuses to put a real transmission in their "sports sedans" i'm sorry but i will never ever ever want to drive a 550 hp "manumatic" because i'd rather not let a torque converter and a computer decide how much power i want to put down and when. don't let the mbz drivers convince you otherwise--they're not sports cars, they're high speed soccer mom vehicles and an utter waste of money if you care the least bit about performance. it's sad to see BMW following suit with all of their "paddle shifters" and CVT's.
they want me to spend 120,000 on a new 6 series, but not give me a proper 6speed transmission?
never.
A little chin music
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Originally posted by monkey
they want me to spend 120,000 on a new 6 series, but not give me a proper 6speed transmission?
never.
they want me to spend 120,000 on a new 6 series, but not give me a proper 6speed transmission?
never.
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o ok. i thought that bmw of america wasn't going to offer a 6spd. or i heard or read that somewhere. and 70K is almost affordable! in 8 years!
right now the current frontrunner for my next new car is the 05 subaru legacy, but the new 3.2 TL is comin on strong with 6spds and an LSD...now if only acura made that thing AWD, it'd be no contest...
anyway, back on topic:
**** mercedes.
right now the current frontrunner for my next new car is the 05 subaru legacy, but the new 3.2 TL is comin on strong with 6spds and an LSD...now if only acura made that thing AWD, it'd be no contest...
anyway, back on topic:
**** mercedes.
A little chin music
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From: Cleveland, Ohio - Rock 'n Roll capitol of the World
Yep. Mercedes does not offer anything for driving enthusiasts. They should at least offer the SMG trans (the new BMW 6 has three trans. options: 6 sp manual, 6 sp SMG, 6 sp steptronic)