turbo or supercharched????
i guess i have different priorities than some, but boosting an engine that wasn't made for boost, that was made by a company that has never used forced induction for a mere gain of 50 or 60 hp is more money that i'm willing to spend, and way too much risk of destroying my car for me to stomach.
i'd buy me a set of tein HA coilovers with that kind of money...and a EDC unit on top of it.
i'd buy me a set of tein HA coilovers with that kind of money...and a EDC unit on top of it.
Well the unique thing about each car company is how well they make their car's engines and transmissions to handle more than what either is supposed to withstand normally. Transmissions, for instance, are seldom made to withstand only what the engine is specified to hand out, and Honda transmissions especially are built to withstand greater amounts of power and torque than what they should by a stock account. Of course different companies differ on this, which is one of a thousand reasons why I will never by some $hit domestic car, with or without those crap slushbox transmissions. I do see your point of view, and I too, have the same worries. Unfortunately, I can't simply install a JRSC into my 94 Si, so my only other option for forced induction is Turbocharging. There are so many different little things to think about, and there's the oil burn, and the cool down and warm up...all that stuff makes wanting to install it in an everyday driver less and less attractive. However, don't think that all one can get out of a turbocharger is 50-60hp. No no, if properly configured and tuned, a turbo can yield a helluva lot more than that. So, like everything else in life, there are the plusses, and there are the minuses.
Originally posted by 4thGenReady2Go
Well the unique thing about each car company is how well they make their car's engines and transmissions to handle more than what either is supposed to withstand normally. Transmissions, for instance, are seldom made to withstand only what the engine is specified to hand out, and Honda transmissions especially are built to withstand greater amounts of power and torque than what they should by a stock account. Of course different companies differ on this, which is one of a thousand reasons why I will never by some $hit domestic car, with or without those crap slushbox transmissions. I do see your point of view, and I too, have the same worries. Unfortunately, I can't simply install a JRSC into my 94 Si, so my only other option for forced induction is Turbocharging. There are so many different little things to think about, and there's the oil burn, and the cool down and warm up...all that stuff makes wanting to install it in an everyday driver less and less attractive. However, don't think that all one can get out of a turbocharger is 50-60hp. No no, if properly configured and tuned, a turbo can yield a helluva lot more than that. So, like everything else in life, there are the plusses, and there are the minuses.
Well the unique thing about each car company is how well they make their car's engines and transmissions to handle more than what either is supposed to withstand normally. Transmissions, for instance, are seldom made to withstand only what the engine is specified to hand out, and Honda transmissions especially are built to withstand greater amounts of power and torque than what they should by a stock account. Of course different companies differ on this, which is one of a thousand reasons why I will never by some $hit domestic car, with or without those crap slushbox transmissions. I do see your point of view, and I too, have the same worries. Unfortunately, I can't simply install a JRSC into my 94 Si, so my only other option for forced induction is Turbocharging. There are so many different little things to think about, and there's the oil burn, and the cool down and warm up...all that stuff makes wanting to install it in an everyday driver less and less attractive. However, don't think that all one can get out of a turbocharger is 50-60hp. No no, if properly configured and tuned, a turbo can yield a helluva lot more than that. So, like everything else in life, there are the plusses, and there are the minuses.
it's not to say i'll never do anything to my 'lude but wheels and suspension first, tranny 2nd (by way of a short throw), and engine last if at all...
Understandable, I can't even afford a Turbo right now anyway, lord knows if I'll ever amass that much money again (first time was to pay for part of my car). Another thing to remember is there is already that much stuff going on in your engine, vacuum hoses, sensors bla bla bla, and one day down the road your car may not start, it may need a new starter, or a battery, bla bla bla. But yes, I do see where you're coming from, and I'm sure it's a lot of extra stuff to think/worry about. Perhaps one day, if I ever have the much money again and want to improve the power, I'll have to start taking all those things into consideration.
Well that all depends. If the JRSC causes damage to your engine, then, no, Honda probably won't cover you. But if you damage the JRSC, Jackson Racing might. Like anything else aftermarket though, it works the same way. If you put springs or coilovers and something brakes, same ol' song and dance. Body kit and something flies up underneat the front lip and into the radiator ... probably won't be covered there either because the gap between the radiator and lip or bumber is larger; using a Spoon magnetic oil drain plug, let's say the magnet detaches and janks up your engine ... sorry again; spark plugs not recommended for your car, spark plug wires, non-honda oil cap, bla bla bla, the list goes on and on, hell, I could've broken my leg today when I nearly stepped in a big hole, oh well. On the other hand, it is your car, and that's up to you how you want to upgrade it, after all, that's what makes it fun, it's the "custom" in customize.
Whatever the cost of the turbosystem that you're looking at...
double it, and that will be the approx. cost of installation/tuning/additional parts/etc. for running it safely.
and then consider the long-term costs. When you start pushing the limits of your engine, stuff will break, its just a matter of time.
You got to pay, to play.
double it, and that will be the approx. cost of installation/tuning/additional parts/etc. for running it safely.
and then consider the long-term costs. When you start pushing the limits of your engine, stuff will break, its just a matter of time.
You got to pay, to play.


