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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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i guess i have different priorities than some, but boosting an engine that wasn't made for boost, that was made by a company that has never used forced induction for a mere gain of 50 or 60 hp is more money that i'm willing to spend, and way too much risk of destroying my car for me to stomach.

i'd buy me a set of tein HA coilovers with that kind of money...and a EDC unit on top of it.
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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Well the unique thing about each car company is how well they make their car's engines and transmissions to handle more than what either is supposed to withstand normally. Transmissions, for instance, are seldom made to withstand only what the engine is specified to hand out, and Honda transmissions especially are built to withstand greater amounts of power and torque than what they should by a stock account. Of course different companies differ on this, which is one of a thousand reasons why I will never by some $hit domestic car, with or without those crap slushbox transmissions. I do see your point of view, and I too, have the same worries. Unfortunately, I can't simply install a JRSC into my 94 Si, so my only other option for forced induction is Turbocharging. There are so many different little things to think about, and there's the oil burn, and the cool down and warm up...all that stuff makes wanting to install it in an everyday driver less and less attractive. However, don't think that all one can get out of a turbocharger is 50-60hp. No no, if properly configured and tuned, a turbo can yield a helluva lot more than that. So, like everything else in life, there are the plusses, and there are the minuses.
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by 4thGenReady2Go
Well the unique thing about each car company is how well they make their car's engines and transmissions to handle more than what either is supposed to withstand normally. Transmissions, for instance, are seldom made to withstand only what the engine is specified to hand out, and Honda transmissions especially are built to withstand greater amounts of power and torque than what they should by a stock account. Of course different companies differ on this, which is one of a thousand reasons why I will never by some $hit domestic car, with or without those crap slushbox transmissions. I do see your point of view, and I too, have the same worries. Unfortunately, I can't simply install a JRSC into my 94 Si, so my only other option for forced induction is Turbocharging. There are so many different little things to think about, and there's the oil burn, and the cool down and warm up...all that stuff makes wanting to install it in an everyday driver less and less attractive. However, don't think that all one can get out of a turbocharger is 50-60hp. No no, if properly configured and tuned, a turbo can yield a helluva lot more than that. So, like everything else in life, there are the plusses, and there are the minuses.
i see where you're coming from, and as a honda driver i empathize with anyone wanting more power out of a lude or teg. but part of what makes my car wonderful is the fact that unless i severely abuse it it will always start, everyday, no matter what. Being a DD is important to me (and my car) so i guess i'm not willing to give that up for 60 hp. I see what you mean about FI being just a base for real big hp but Ugh, thinking about the million different things you've got to do to make your turbo worth it gives me a mad headache...boost controllers, Standalone ECU vs. Reprogs, exhaust headers, fuel pumps, fuel rails, rods, turbobacks, turbo timers, gauges, headers, cams, pistons, 94 octane fuel, etc etc. maybe seeing what the WRX and sr/rb guys go through to make huge power puts all of this honda stuff in perspective...all i gotta say is that for now my bank acct, and my sanity are glad i don't have to worry about it...

it's not to say i'll never do anything to my 'lude but wheels and suspension first, tranny 2nd (by way of a short throw), and engine last if at all...
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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Understandable, I can't even afford a Turbo right now anyway, lord knows if I'll ever amass that much money again (first time was to pay for part of my car). Another thing to remember is there is already that much stuff going on in your engine, vacuum hoses, sensors bla bla bla, and one day down the road your car may not start, it may need a new starter, or a battery, bla bla bla. But yes, I do see where you're coming from, and I'm sure it's a lot of extra stuff to think/worry about. Perhaps one day, if I ever have the much money again and want to improve the power, I'll have to start taking all those things into consideration.
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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hehe, the difference is, Jackson Superchargers aren't covered by facotry warranty and Vacuum hoses and defective belts are
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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Well that all depends. If the JRSC causes damage to your engine, then, no, Honda probably won't cover you. But if you damage the JRSC, Jackson Racing might. Like anything else aftermarket though, it works the same way. If you put springs or coilovers and something brakes, same ol' song and dance. Body kit and something flies up underneat the front lip and into the radiator ... probably won't be covered there either because the gap between the radiator and lip or bumber is larger; using a Spoon magnetic oil drain plug, let's say the magnet detaches and janks up your engine ... sorry again; spark plugs not recommended for your car, spark plug wires, non-honda oil cap, bla bla bla, the list goes on and on, hell, I could've broken my leg today when I nearly stepped in a big hole, oh well. On the other hand, it is your car, and that's up to you how you want to upgrade it, after all, that's what makes it fun, it's the "custom" in customize.
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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if u want 250+ at the wheels go turbo. i ordered the fmax kit which will give you like 275whp at 14 psi with a open wastegate.
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:34 AM
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you have to replace the JRSC belt every 10k miles? Thats absurd!
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 08:59 AM
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Whatever the cost of the turbosystem that you're looking at...

double it, and that will be the approx. cost of installation/tuning/additional parts/etc. for running it safely.

and then consider the long-term costs. When you start pushing the limits of your engine, stuff will break, its just a matter of time.

You got to pay, to play.
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