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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ludeboom
without the sway bar the wheels are free to move up and down on there own. which i think will reduce overall traction and control. the LCA doesnt really control anything it just pivots on the crossmember, plus mine had energy supsension so the LCA had even more freedom of movement.

im more likely to be actually doing 75 thru onramps, in which case i think no sway bar could have unpredictable results. so if your car isnt track only i recommend re-installing it.

~kris
Wheels being able to travel up and down are what independent suspensions are all about, though i understand that there might be more roll up front, which may cause a car to feel more unstable, but in *theory*, running without sway bars (and with adequate roll resistance, aka stiff ass springs) would lead to more grip since the sway bar isn't lifting the outside (loaded wheel). newton's second law dictates that if the inside wheel that wants to lift is being prevented from doing so by a sway bar that there must be an equal and opposite force being exerted on the member that is creating the initial force.

with that in mind, it may not be practical to ride without a front sway, b/c the car may be too loose (oversteer) for daily use, but that tends to be subjective since everyone drives differently. at any rate, you could be right boom, but i don't think there's too much harm in seeing how it works for this particular person.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by monkey
Wheels being able to travel up and down are what independent suspensions are all about, though i understand that there might be more roll up front, which may cause a car to feel more unstable, but in *theory*, running without sway bars (and with adequate roll resistance, aka stiff ass springs) would lead to more grip since the sway bar isn't lifting the outside (loaded wheel). newton's second law dictates that if the inside wheel that wants to lift is being prevented from doing so by a sway bar that there must be an equal and opposite force being exerted on the member that is creating the initial force.

with that in mind, it may not be practical to ride without a front sway, b/c the car may be too loose (oversteer) for daily use, but that tends to be subjective since everyone drives differently. at any rate, you could be right boom, but i don't think there's too much harm in seeing how it works for this particular person.
when i broke my sway bar at the track it seemed more like understeer. not oversteer. the car slid wider, but it wasnt rotating as much as a rear wheel drive car...even though there was excessive tire spin up front, caused by a single wheels allowed to wheelhop since the sway bar was broken. like i said with my AGX and prokit i was having understeer problems during my last run of the day.

~kris
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