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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by dptkfil
I have to disagree on the turbo part...With proper tuning a lude can handle 10 psi and with just a lower compression head gasket and proper fuel managment, you can boost to 12 psi and reach 240 hp. (of course you don't boost 12psi and expect your engine to last) On the other hand the b18c5, the compression of the engine is a bit higher then h22, and it can't take that much boost.. I haven't see anyone boost more then 8 psi on stock internal...

with proper tuning, yes.......reliability suffers from every lb of pressure that it goes up......and i've seen 220whp from 7psi, so 12psi isn't necessary.......tuning it well means tuning it lean and supposedly more power and a more stable setup.....giving it a richer a/f ratio to compensate for less ideal tuning is a trick instead of a fix....and the jdm h22a has 10.6:1 CR which isn't really that much more turbo friendly than is the b18cX

here is a link of 240 whp at 7psi on a 99 lude

http://www.h22a.org/t0347psi.htm
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by monkey
actually tegs only weigh 350 lbs less than a lude.

that was that day i couldn't add for shit......i THOUGHT that the tegs were around 2650 and the ludes around 3000, which is 350lbs.....where i come up with 500lbs, i do not know
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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a built h22a1 sleeved with rods/pistons and stock head with cut-down duration psi for psi will make more power than an equally modified h23a1.

i am a firm supporter of the h22a1
probably because i have seen 3 blown h23a1's in the last 12 months (spun #2 CR bearing on all 3 motors)

and i believe its the crank not the bearings themselves

while the h22a1 crank is good to nearly 1000 HP and revs much much higher with no mods, on the order of 8500 no problem, at that rpm the head is the weaklink anyway

~boomer
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by GsrRex88
i love my b18c5, well b18c1 w/itr head.
man 2100lbs is nice in my Crx with that much power.

I sure dont get stomped by preludes.

-Eric
with that kind power/weight i sure hope not
i think some dude around here is in the 11's with an all motor h22a in an EG

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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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Yeah i wont be running 11's any time soon.

I really like my current setup though. I plan to drop a bit more weight soon.

I belive weight is just as important as power for having a quick car.

-Eric
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by GsrRex88
I believe weight is just as important as power for having a quick car.

-Eric
..and you're right.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by GsrRex88
Yeah i wont be running 11's any time soon.

I really like my current setup though. I plan to drop a bit more weight soon.

I belive weight is just as important as power for having a quick car.

-Eric
quite right, when it comes down to it, whp only means so much when you take weight into consideration. All that weight has to be moved, so, naturally, the less of it there is, the more hp/lb you have, and that makes a huge difference when comparing two cars, even two with a signicant difference in engine size. That is why (while some may laugh) I'd put my money on a wrx wagon over a mustang gt.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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Thats why no one belives me i can blow the doors off of a gt mustang, even thought its engine has a great deal more torque and HP.

Afterall i have aprox 10lbs per HP at the crank.

-Eric
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by GsrRex88
Thats why no one belives me i can blow the doors off of a gt mustang, even thought its engine has a great deal more torque and HP.

Afterall i have aprox 10lbs per HP at the crank.

-Eric
lol, that's sick. It's a crx right? what year? my brother had a few (his first car at 16, HF, lol, 60 hp but hey, at least he GOT a car, that one got wrecked; then he had a 90 civic si, same powerplant if i remember correctly, poor car got t-boned by an old man who ran a stop sign in his tank of an 88 audi; finally, the trifecta ended with another crx, this time a 90 si, which he drove, and drove, and drove... eventually it burned copius amounts of oil in city driving, and he donated it, so he didn't wreck ALL three of them) and never let me drive any of em, well, when he was around anyway :naughty: Yeah, I can only imagine how quick it must be with an itr engine (or even just head) in there, phew!
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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Yeah its in a 88 Crx Si.

Its nice, first car im 16, HOPE i dont wreck it!!!

-Eric
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