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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MellowGold
What if a show was made that displayed YOU as an incompetant loser, and aired it as a documentery on national television? Would you not be incrediably pissed off? Well, it is 100x worse in this case, because it is blaming 9/11 on Clinton.
don't they do this the bush administration every day?


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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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Republicans are arguing this "docudrama" just as much. Apparently, the first part bashes Clinton and the second part bashes Bush. I watched the first part tonight and found many flaws....hardly enough to not air it all together. But to credit the left side, they made the argument and had it fixed as far as extream lies and false tales go....no I did not like the Osama kill that never happened, but as we all know, it's much more complex then what 10 minutes of primetime mini-series can show. Lets see what tomorows part has to show about bush...Im not supporting this broadcast, but I'm not knocking it. I feel that the proper measures were takin...if false facts have been shown, you can damn well count on reporters to report it the next day.

As far as this topic goes, freedom of speach is one thing, having power over a massive audience while telling blatant lies, is another....FOX News

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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
Yeah I've been paying attention to this the past few days. I am absolutely loving hearing Clinton and his compadres bitch and moan and cry about this :rofl: Please note how Hillary hasn't said a damn thing...it's way too close to 2008 for her to stand up for her husband and get involved in something that people might perceive her poorly for.
good god your a fucking moron...honestly, your posts only make us more stupid.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Duff Man
Republicans are arguing this "docudrama" just as much. Apparently, the first part bashes Clinton and the second part bashes Bush. I watched the first part tonight and found many flaws....hardly enough to not air it all together. But to credit the left side, they made the argument and had it fixed as far as extream lies and false tales go....no I did not like the Osama kill that never happened, but as we all know, it's much more complex then what 10 minutes of primetime mini-series can show. Lets see what tomorows part has to show about bush...Im not supporting this broadcast, but I'm not knocking it. I feel that the proper measures were takin...if false facts have been shown, you can damn well count on reporters to report it the next day.

As far as this topic goes, freedom of speach is one thing, having power over a massive audience while telling blatant lies, is another....FOX News
What is with me and you agreeing?

The last statement in particular. It brings to mind the big Mohammad-cartoon thing. Technically, they were allowed to publish it...but do you really want to be an asshole? That newspaper lost a lot of respect...

...and in the same way, ABC will as well. The reporting of it has already happened. In fact, most people are probably watching it for that reason...to see what the big deal is. So, in an essence Clinton has already got what he sought.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Duff Man
As far as this topic goes, freedom of speach is one thing, having power over a massive audience while telling blatant lies, is another....FOX News
Enough about FOX News already. I get it...you do not like them. They portray the "OTHER" side of the story about what is going right in the world and do not bow to the liberal ideaology. Just because it does not fit with your views does not make it incorrect.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
Enough about FOX News already. I get it...you do not like them. They portray the "OTHER" side of the story about what is going right in the world and do not bow to the liberal ideaology. Just because it does not fit with your views does not make it incorrect.
...as long as you keep saying cut n run, imma hate on FOX
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Duff Man
...as long as you keep saying cut n run, imma hate on FOX
As long as that remains the Democratic proposal in Iraq no matter what the terminolgy used is I will keep using it.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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If a thread as simple as this can become mired in semantics it's a wonder any TV show with any political message ever gets air time.

Originally Posted by Duff Man
"As far as this topic goes, freedom of speach is one thing, having power over a massive audience while telling blatant lies, is another....FOX News"

FWIW freedom of speech (sp) is absolutely about being able to tell the tale however you see fit.

The problem rests in the separation of, and I use these terms loosely, journalism and politics.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Duff Man
good god your a fucking moron...honestly, your posts only make us more stupid.
If intelligent debate is beyond your grasp maybe the basement would be a better place to troll.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fjm1
If a thread as simple as this can become mired in semantics it's a wonder any TV show with any political message ever gets air time.

Originally Posted by Duff Man
"As far as this topic goes, freedom of speach is one thing, having power over a massive audience while telling blatant lies, is another....FOX News"

FWIW freedom of speech (sp) is absolutely about being able to tell the tale however you see fit.

The problem rests in the separation of, and I use these terms loosely, journalism and politics.
My point in saying this was in dispute to the broadcast "the path to 9/11". It showed characters involved in an administration handling situations falsely, making false comments, and flat out lying. They were wrong...the facts shown were wrong. ABC/Disney, re-shot those scenes. They recognized the false scenarios and fixed them. If they aired them, the audience would be vulnerable to lies and deceit.

Originally Posted by fjm1
If intelligent debate is beyond your grasp maybe the basement would be a better place to troll.
Trust me...my one meager attack is far surpassed by this jack offs numerous personal attacks in the On Topic board.

But thanks for the heads up
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