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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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so who heard that a tucson corp is giving the mexican government maps of the arizona desert and where all the water stations are, everything and mexico is going to mass produce them and distribute them. anyone heard any of this
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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I also heard a report about the Mexican military helping illegals cross the border and smuggle drugs. They have even crossed into the US. Sounds like an invasion to me and a STRONG reason to put troops on the border.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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amen to that brotha protect our nation dont make us arozonians take care of it ourselves we are a bunch of red necks! haha jk but seriously i heard that and was like no way thats fucked up!
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Seal the damn border. And sentence the traitors jeopardizing the safety of the country.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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no! we can't do that!! all those previous votes!! hnoes:





:werd:, seal the damn border already!
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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50 cal turrets and a shoot at will order oughta slow it down some.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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I believe these are the articles you were speaking of.

Texas Officers Involved in Standoff at Border

Tuesday, January 24, 2006

SIERRA BLANCA, Texas — Men dressed as Mexican Army soldiers, apparent drug suspects and Texas law enforcement officers faced off on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande, an FBI spokeswoman said Tuesday.

Andrea Simmons, an agency spokeswoman in El Paso, told The Associated Press that Texas Department of Public Safety troopers chased three SUVs, believing they were carrying drugs, to the banks of the Rio Grande during Monday's incident.

Men dressed in Mexican military uniforms or camouflage were on the U.S. side of the border in Texas, she said.

Simmons said the FBI was not involved and referred requests for further details to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The Inland Valley Daily Bulletin of Ontario, Calif., reported Tuesday that the incident included an armed standoff involving the Mexican military, suspected drug smugglers and nearly 30 U.S. law enforcement officers. It said Mexican military Humvees were towing what appeared to be thousands of pounds of marijuana across the border into the United States.

The incident follows a story in the Bulletin on Jan. 15 that said the Mexican military had crossed into the United States more than 200 times since 1996.

Chief Deputy Mike Doyal of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department told the newspaper that Border Patrol agents called for backup and were joined by Hudspeth County deputies and DPS troopers. Mexican army personnel had several mounted machine guns on the ground more than 200 yards inside the U.S. border, the newspaper said.

Doyal said deputies captured a Cadillac Escalade that had been reported stolen from El Paso, and found 1,477 pounds of marijuana inside. He said Mexican soldiers set fire to one of the Humvees stuck in the river.

The site is near Neely's Crossing, about 50 miles east of El Paso, it said.

"It's been so bred into everyone not to start an international incident with Mexico that it's been going on for years," Doyal said. "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do? Who wants to pull the trigger first? Certainly not us."

After the newspaper reported on Mexican military crossings, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the report was overblown and most of the incursions were just mistakes.

In eastern California, Arizona and New Mexico, the U.S.-Mexico border is largely unmarked. But in Texas, the Rio Grande separates the two countries and even when dry, is a riverbed about 200 feet wide.

In November, Doyal said Border Patrol agents in the border town of Fort Hancock called for help after confronting more than six men dressed in Mexican military uniforms. The men allegedly were trying to bring more than three tons of marijuana across the Rio Grande, Doyal told the newspaper.

Doyal said such incidents are common at Neely's Crossing.
Mexican Government to Hand Out Arizona Maps to Migrants
Tuesday, January 24, 2006


Anti-Immigration Groups Targeting Businesses
MEXICO CITY — A Mexican government commission said Tuesday it will distribute at least 70,000 maps showing highways, rescue beacons and water tanks in the Arizona desert to curb the death toll among illegal border crossers.

The National Human Rights Commission, a government-funded agency with independent powers, denied the maps — similar to a comic-style guide booklet Mexico distributed to migrants last year — would encourage illegal immigration.

Officials said the maps would help guide those in trouble find rescue beacons and areas with cell phone reception. The maps will also show the distance a person can walk in the desert in a single day.

"We are not trying in any way to encourage or promote migration," said Mauricio Farah, one of the commission's national inspectors. "The only thing we are trying to do is warn them of the risks they face and where to get water, so they don't die."

But some advocates of greater immigration control were irritated by the map announcement.

"What's next? Are they going to buy them bus tickets to Chicago?" said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based think tank. "It's clearly a bad thing for Mexico to be encouraging illegal immigration."


The comic booklet for migrants was distributed by the government in early 2005 and warned of the perils of crossing illegally into the United States, while offering tips to stay safe.

The booklet, of which about 1.5 million were printed, enraged some advocates of stricter immigration policies in the United States who argue that it encouraged illegal migration.

Farah said his commission was simply trying to prevent deaths and estimated that around 500 Mexicans died trying to cross the border in 2005. Many die in the desert, where summer temperatures soar above 100 degrees, and many drown while attempting to cross the Rio Grande river.

The commission plans to hang the poster-size maps in March in places where migrants will see them, such as migrant-aid groups, the commission's offices and in Mexican border towns.

They were designed by the Tucson, Ariz.-based rights group Humane Borders, which operates some of the desert water stations. The group previously distributed about 100 posters in the Mexican border town of Sasabe.

Rev. Robin Hoover, president of Humane Borders, said maps are needed in southern Mexico so migrants can weigh the risks before leaving home.

Some of the posters have warnings, such as "Don't go. There isn't enough water."

However, officials conceded many migrants were unlikely to heed the advice.

Farah said migration "is a human right" and that "the United States should be grateful" the commission is doing something to curb the death toll, because "hundreds of thousands of Mexicans help maintain their economy."

Mexicans working in the United States are a huge source of revenue for Mexico, sending home more than $16 billion in remittances in 2004, Mexico's second largest source of foreign currency after oil exports according to the country's central bank.
I had used these articles in a thread I posted in the Basement.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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electrified fence?

something really... because honestly.. im not racist or anything but those people are desperate they will do anything to cross...

they blocked off this road once and a good friend of my family was coming home...she comes to this road block...figures WTF? so she gets out of the car to remove the shits,and a bunch of mexicans rush out and rob her and steal her car... she was left in the middle of now where basically

EDIT: luckily an hour or so later people drove by and she waved them down, she found her car 3-4 days later stripped to the shell
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 05:47 AM
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Damn illegals. If there are Mexican Military personnel entering the US, that is an invasion. How is nothing being done about this?

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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there is a lot being done about we will never be able to stop immigration period. its going to happen and they will find more and more ways cross. dont know if you guys know or not but there are tunnels that go across the border a fence wont work. these tunnels are miles and miles long the u.s has only found three and you know there are more probably around 45ish. so either way there is not a lot they can do. the Mexicans that do cross the border dont come here to live, they come here to make money to bring back to their family. so basically they are coming here and taking our money to their country.they need to find these tunnels thats the only thing that will be able to stop that.
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