Is Nissan planning...
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Is Nissan planning...
a 2+2 sport compact at all? for the rsx, celica, etx market? juss curious if anyone has any info on something like this... i'd like to see a high powere 4cyl rwd 2+2 for under 25k eh?
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They've got the Spec-V, although that's not exactly a sporty coupe.
I wonder if Nissan realizes the extent to which the 240SX has caught on in the "import tuner" (hate to use the term) circles? I tried to search through posts on a Nissan forum about the largest wheels you could put on an S13, and people kept talking about how they run 9" wide wheels with 215-width tires to give them that "JDM dorifto-style look." They even call their brakes "buraki," the retards.
The thing is 2002 was the last year for the S15 Silvia in Japan, so the only rwd 2+2 that Nissan makes for now is the Skyline/Infiniti G35. The FM platform doesn't seem to me that it would be well-suited to making an "S16" (which incidentally I don't think will be called that, since the current Skyline is the V35 and not the R35). It's a bit on the large size. Chopped down to a 2-seater (the 350Z) it's not exactly small. The QR sucks, too. It would need a serious reworking to make into an actual sports car motor.
The type of people who buy 240SXs now are stupid trend-followers with used car budgets. Those aren't the type of people who would be enticed into actually buying a brand-new version of the car. I don't think that a Silvia or 240SX would do well in actual sales numbers.
Nissan already has an "image car" in the 350Z to get people into the dealerships. Every dealer has plenty of 350Zs sitting on their lots and they're claiming to sell them at "no more than MSRP." So it's not like they're flying out faster than they can be made any more. I doubt Nissan dealers want another sports car to have sitting on lots.
Sports car buyers in this country are infamously trendy. Whenever the "next big thing" comes out everybody rushes to get their hands on one, and then sales slow down. It happened with the S2000, WRX, 350Z, G35 Coupe, EVO, RX-8, etc. There's an initial rush and then once the gottahaveit people run out, the sales stagnate. If Nissan came out with a light weight, rwd sports car at a lower price than the Z, it would most likely kill Z sales.
I wonder if Nissan realizes the extent to which the 240SX has caught on in the "import tuner" (hate to use the term) circles? I tried to search through posts on a Nissan forum about the largest wheels you could put on an S13, and people kept talking about how they run 9" wide wheels with 215-width tires to give them that "JDM dorifto-style look." They even call their brakes "buraki," the retards.
The thing is 2002 was the last year for the S15 Silvia in Japan, so the only rwd 2+2 that Nissan makes for now is the Skyline/Infiniti G35. The FM platform doesn't seem to me that it would be well-suited to making an "S16" (which incidentally I don't think will be called that, since the current Skyline is the V35 and not the R35). It's a bit on the large size. Chopped down to a 2-seater (the 350Z) it's not exactly small. The QR sucks, too. It would need a serious reworking to make into an actual sports car motor.
The type of people who buy 240SXs now are stupid trend-followers with used car budgets. Those aren't the type of people who would be enticed into actually buying a brand-new version of the car. I don't think that a Silvia or 240SX would do well in actual sales numbers.
Nissan already has an "image car" in the 350Z to get people into the dealerships. Every dealer has plenty of 350Zs sitting on their lots and they're claiming to sell them at "no more than MSRP." So it's not like they're flying out faster than they can be made any more. I doubt Nissan dealers want another sports car to have sitting on lots.
Sports car buyers in this country are infamously trendy. Whenever the "next big thing" comes out everybody rushes to get their hands on one, and then sales slow down. It happened with the S2000, WRX, 350Z, G35 Coupe, EVO, RX-8, etc. There's an initial rush and then once the gottahaveit people run out, the sales stagnate. If Nissan came out with a light weight, rwd sports car at a lower price than the Z, it would most likely kill Z sales.
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Originally posted by MrFatBooty
They've got the Spec-V, although that's not exactly a sporty coupe.
I wonder if Nissan realizes the extent to which the 240SX has caught on in the "import tuner" (hate to use the term) circles? I tried to search through posts on a Nissan forum about the largest wheels you could put on an S13, and people kept talking about how they run 9" wide wheels with 215-width tires to give them that "JDM dorifto-style look." They even call their brakes "buraki," the retards.
The thing is 2002 was the last year for the S15 Silvia in Japan, so the only rwd 2+2 that Nissan makes for now is the Skyline/Infiniti G35. The FM platform doesn't seem to me that it would be well-suited to making an "S16" (which incidentally I don't think will be called that, since the current Skyline is the V35 and not the R35). It's a bit on the large size. Chopped down to a 2-seater (the 350Z) it's not exactly small. The QR sucks, too. It would need a serious reworking to make into an actual sports car motor.
The type of people who buy 240SXs now are stupid trend-followers with used car budgets. Those aren't the type of people who would be enticed into actually buying a brand-new version of the car. I don't think that a Silvia or 240SX would do well in actual sales numbers.
Nissan already has an "image car" in the 350Z to get people into the dealerships. Every dealer has plenty of 350Zs sitting on their lots and they're claiming to sell them at "no more than MSRP." So it's not like they're flying out faster than they can be made any more. I doubt Nissan dealers want another sports car to have sitting on lots.
Sports car buyers in this country are infamously trendy. Whenever the "next big thing" comes out everybody rushes to get their hands on one, and then sales slow down. It happened with the S2000, WRX, 350Z, G35 Coupe, EVO, RX-8, etc. There's an initial rush and then once the gottahaveit people run out, the sales stagnate. If Nissan came out with a light weight, rwd sports car at a lower price than the Z, it would most likely kill Z sales.
They've got the Spec-V, although that's not exactly a sporty coupe.
I wonder if Nissan realizes the extent to which the 240SX has caught on in the "import tuner" (hate to use the term) circles? I tried to search through posts on a Nissan forum about the largest wheels you could put on an S13, and people kept talking about how they run 9" wide wheels with 215-width tires to give them that "JDM dorifto-style look." They even call their brakes "buraki," the retards.
The thing is 2002 was the last year for the S15 Silvia in Japan, so the only rwd 2+2 that Nissan makes for now is the Skyline/Infiniti G35. The FM platform doesn't seem to me that it would be well-suited to making an "S16" (which incidentally I don't think will be called that, since the current Skyline is the V35 and not the R35). It's a bit on the large size. Chopped down to a 2-seater (the 350Z) it's not exactly small. The QR sucks, too. It would need a serious reworking to make into an actual sports car motor.
The type of people who buy 240SXs now are stupid trend-followers with used car budgets. Those aren't the type of people who would be enticed into actually buying a brand-new version of the car. I don't think that a Silvia or 240SX would do well in actual sales numbers.
Nissan already has an "image car" in the 350Z to get people into the dealerships. Every dealer has plenty of 350Zs sitting on their lots and they're claiming to sell them at "no more than MSRP." So it's not like they're flying out faster than they can be made any more. I doubt Nissan dealers want another sports car to have sitting on lots.
Sports car buyers in this country are infamously trendy. Whenever the "next big thing" comes out everybody rushes to get their hands on one, and then sales slow down. It happened with the S2000, WRX, 350Z, G35 Coupe, EVO, RX-8, etc. There's an initial rush and then once the gottahaveit people run out, the sales stagnate. If Nissan came out with a light weight, rwd sports car at a lower price than the Z, it would most likely kill Z sales.
B)True. I have a few friends that keep telling me to make my 240SX into a drifter, hachi roku style.
C)True. If anything I say the SR20VET would be a great engine to put in a "s16". It's hp # might be too close to the 350Z's for Nissan comfort though. (i dont know if the vet would pass usa emissions.)
D)True.
E)Once again, true. In a way. The "s16" could occupy the 20-25k range and not offer as much as the 350Z, you know they could cut corners, Nissan is good at that. But yeah, i dont know if itll make finicial sense to put this thing on the FM platform. it sure wont make as much sense to give it its own platform.
Here's what I think. With fairly little work Nissan could take what they have and create a RWD coupe with a turbo inline-4 and RWD for under 25k. I dont think theyll do it until they got back on more stable ground.
Personally, I'd love to see one. If anyone can give me a turbo-4 rwd coupe with a manual thats under 3000lbs for under a little over 20k id be very happy. Of course the interior and exterior design, as well as quality, would have to be acceptable. (pontiac solstice.... mmmmm)
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The folks over on the Nissan boards (mainly freshalloy) talked about an upcoming S16 replacement awhile back (I also posted on this a few months ago too). With the 350Z, and recent Maxima/Quest/Murano launches I don't think Nissan really has a priority for such a low volume car anytime soon. Although with the Silvia's cult-like status in Japan I don't doubt that we'll be seeing an S16 within 2 years. Prolly be close to what yianni said, about 25k tops with a turbo I-4, pretty much the same as the S15 I'd guess.
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Originally posted by yianni64
B)True. I have a few friends that keep telling me to make my 240SX into a drifter, hachi roku style.
B)True. I have a few friends that keep telling me to make my 240SX into a drifter, hachi roku style.
Drifting ahs recently caught on, but I know I and some other owners of 240s have ALWAYS liked the 240....blame it all on damn SportCOmpactCar
The SR20DET is a nice motor, but no one uses 215s that r 9 inch wide to drift anyways...
most ppl uses blad shitty tires on steels
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Originally posted by Dorikin
but no one uses 215s that r 9 inch wide to drift anyways...
most ppl uses blad shitty tires on steels
but no one uses 215s that r 9 inch wide to drift anyways...
most ppl uses blad shitty tires on steels
