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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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I think europeans so far favor diesels more than Americans and bringing it over here might be a bad decision for them. Americans fell into the idea that Hybrids save the environment and saves gas even with all the anti-hybrid groups.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lexusis350
I think europeans so far favor diesels more than Americans and bringing it over here might be a bad decision for them. Americans fell into the idea that Hybrids save the environment and saves gas even with all the anti-hybrid groups.
Since Subaru has said nothing about bringing a diesel engine to our market, why are you assuming they're going to offer this motor here? :eh:

Also, it's not like they're giving up on gasoline engines all at once.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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torrrrrrque out the asssssshole


but seriously, this things torque curve must be through the roof.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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The reason Europeans favor diesel is because their government subsidizes diesel fuel, and its much cheaper than regular gasoline. As far as United States is concerned, there are five states that didn't approve Chrysler's urea injection diesels, and I am damn glad about it. The last thing I want is to get stuck in traffic behind a stinky diesel car.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ochdx
The reason Europeans favor diesel is because their government subsidizes diesel fuel, and its much cheaper than regular gasoline. As far as United States is concerned, there are five states that didn't approve Chrysler's urea injection diesels, and I am damn glad about it.
Not totally true.

The EU overtaxes diesel less than they do gas. It has nothing to do with a subsidy. And with upcoming EU regulations standardizing diesel taxation, that difference is going to be much less than it was before.

Also, Bluetec is only a year away from becoming 50 state legal. And Honda's upcoming urea-free diesel coming to the US will also be 50 state legal.

But, way to promote thirty year old stereotypes of diesel technology.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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i do believe that there should be some sort of air- mixing device in the exhaust to allow the diesel fumes to dissipate sooner
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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So is a diesel not as clean to the environment as hybrids or regular gas engines?
Doesn't BMW, Volkswagen currently sell diesel cars?

Doesn't the extra torque make them powerful? Like 200 horsepower for diesel and 260 horsepower for gas both have same acceleration?
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lexusis350
So is a diesel not as clean to the environment as hybrids or regular gas engines?
Doesn't BMW, Volkswagen currently sell diesel cars?

Doesn't the extra torque make them powerful? Like 200 horsepower for diesel and 260 horsepower for gas both have same acceleration?
Diesels usually have more torque down low, but they run out fof breath very fast, thats why most diesels are turbo charged.

And yeha, BMW, VW sell tons of diesels in Europe, and quite frankly all of them suck.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Troopa-R
Also, Bluetec is only a year away from becoming 50 state legal. And Honda's upcoming urea-free diesel coming to the US will also be 50 state legal.
I believe that DaimlerChrysler has convinced EPA and CARB to make their BlueTec system with the AdBlue urea gas injection system US legal. That could open the way for Mercedes-Benz to offer their ultra-powerful 4.5-liter V-8 turbodiesel on the S-Class sedan, R-Class "tall wagon" and GL-Class SUV. BMW has licensed BlueTec and we could see their well-regarded 3.0-liter I-5 turbodiesel on the X3 and X5 "crossover" SUV's very soon.

If Subaru has gotten access to Honda's plasma reactor catalyst, we could see Subaru offer their "boxer" turbodiesel on the Forester model.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ochdx
Diesels usually have more torque down low, but they run out fof breath very fast, thats why most diesels are turbo charged.

And yeha, BMW, VW sell tons of diesels in Europe, and quite frankly all of them suck.
Yes, because you've driven them.
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