sherwood

i have to say you are correct, their mainstream v6's have been. but it took half a decade for them to catch up to the NSX's 290 DOHC 3.2

i believe the first to catch up with that engine was the bmw 3.2 in the 2001. it was 4 years later. and that was an I6.

i feel that honda only needs one thing to upgrade their v6's to compete with the competition, create a j-series DOHC head with a full operating VTEC system.

have a cam for power down at 2k and a cam for power at 4.5k and honda will have increase total overall horsepower as well as low end grunt that alot fo their v6's lack.

autofreak

I totally agree with you but not to long ago (last year before '07 Camry was around) did the Accord have a 240 hp V6 engine compared to the 210 hp V6 engine on the Camry.

asianautica

Yeah, but the Avalon has 268HP and the Maxima has 250 and Altima has 250-265. Then there's G35/350Z with 300HP, IS350 with 306HP.

qtiger

Oh man you're right. Honda better up their HP numbers, I bet a ton of people cross-shop Accords and G35s.

asianautica

Oh snap, I thought the TL was a real car made by Honda.

MtViewGuy88

I think once Honda's new assembly in Greensburg, IN starts up, expect a lot more economy models to come out of Honda's North American production.

This means more Civic production, and definitely the Fit (in its second-generation form) will now be sourced in North America. Don't be surprised that the Civic gets a mid-model change (MMC) maybe halfway into the 2008 model year in order to better compete against the upcoming next-generation Toyota Corolla, with new features like improvements to the R18 engine for more power and better fuel economy and a possible automatic transmission change from a five-speed to possibly a CVT automatic with seven-step "gear" shifting.

The so-called new small hybrid is very likely based on the next-generation Fit platform, but possibly with a unique body design, though.

autofreak

:doh: i forgot about those V6s. I wonder if Honda ever plans on entering the full size sedan market anytime soon. With the impressive 300 hp V6 in the RL i'm sure Honda could easily match Toyota's and Nissan's V6 engines.

autofreak

If an MMC does occur i really hope that they redesign the dash and get rid of the, IMO, questionable styling which i hope doesn't make its way into the 2008 Honda Accord (weird non symetrical style with the exception of the steering wheel design in the Civic). i hope you understand what i'm talking about.

asianautica

RL under the new SAE is no longer 300HP. It's 290HP. The new TL-S is 283HP.

thomas

i would love honda diesil but the diesil might be a isuzu