The New Toyota Civic
Sportiness and ... godliness of Toyota?
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I tested a Civic EX with a sticker price of $18,260. All prices exclude destination charges. [Enthousiasts] are a demanding jury, but their high standards arise from the performance that previous generations of the Civic delivered. The current model falls just short on that count. |
From what I've read, most reviewers seem to think the Civic is fairly sporty but underpowered. :dunno:
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detroit free press did this publication...they are used to big old pushrod v6s as base engines in most of their cars...they also don't understand the import tuner market and how the new civic is a big answer to their hopes
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In my opinion, if you want a sporty Civic, buy an Si. All others are just econoboxes. Nice, solid, well built econoboxes.
What were they expecting? 0-60 in 4.2, 11.8 in the 1/4 and 1.08g on the slalom? Please. |
Originally Posted by jaje
detroit free press did this publication...they are used to big old pushrod v6s as base engines in most of their cars...they also don't understand the import tuner market and how the new civic is a big answer to their hopes
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Most Civic owners will never be aware of those shortcomings. The car's efficiency, roomy interior and many standard features will be more than enough to keep them happy. These people forgot that good, reasonable, extremely affordable and reliable cars that also happen to handle well are what's driving nails into the coffin known as Detroit. When was the last Detroit car that's under 20,000, drives as good as the Civic (any Civic), family-friendly and rice-ready? Yeah, maybe the Neon has less "short comings" when compared to the Civic. |
Originally Posted by M Type X
The Detroit News' Lienerts are in favor of the Civic. The Free Press is more UAW-friendly and also Mark Phelan is "Mr. Cold Water" on pretty much a lot of things. But he still has an argument.
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Originally Posted by stickyshifter
Oh, like there's an alternative from Detroit that can offer anything remotely close?
These people forgot that good, reasonable, extremely affordable and reliable cars that also happen to handle well are what's driving nails into the coffin known as Detroit. When was the last Detroit car that's under 20,000, drives as good as the Civic (any Civic), family-friendly and rice-ready? Yeah, maybe the Neon has less "short comings" when compared to the Civic. |
The problem is that he tested a Sedan. The Coupes have a stiffer suspension and the Si is even stiffer yet. 98% of people who buy Civic Sedans place ride comfort over handling and quick reflexes...that's why they toned down the suspension so much. Mark Phelan is also a dumbass, so that doesn't help.
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