2006 VW Golf GT - 170 hp from only 1.4 liters thru a turbo AND supercharger!
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From: Fairfield/Bridgeport CT
Originally Posted by Kestrel
Is this a diesel? My question is how they are upping the compression ratio so much without autoignition.
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From: NY
Originally Posted by asianautica
It seems like you have a bigger problem w/ VW coming up w/ this first instead of the technology itself. I bet if Honda came out w/ this, you would praise them for coming up w/ a 120HP/L 140ft-lb/L engine.
But if you can't even take a criticism on an obvious possible risk that VW takes, don't try to turn that around and say that I will praise Honda for making a small engine. That is unfounded. I had not done that in the past, and I do not know what makes you think that.
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Originally Posted by asianautica
No, but all the argument against this is because VW came up w/ it and since they're unreliable, so this must not be a good thing.
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From: Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit
Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
Okay so a 140 hp engine gets a little better mileage than a 170 hp engine. Roll your eyes at that, ha! 
Maybe it's because they're showing the technology off in a Golf with modest powerm levels. Certainly not in line with the US intro to VTEC (NSX) or DSG (TT).
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This is like the last VW bright idea, the W engine.
They made the W8 for the Passat but quickly dropped it. Frankly, it wasn't better than the Nissan V6 on paper. They also put it in the Phaeton, but there are less than 1000 Phaeton sold every year so maybe about 100 of them are the W12. And they are trying to put it in the Bugatti Veyron, which has been vaporware for years.
So all that research give you only hundreds of new w engines every year. It's not even worth it for the extra training expense you have to spend on the engineers and technicians.
They made the W8 for the Passat but quickly dropped it. Frankly, it wasn't better than the Nissan V6 on paper. They also put it in the Phaeton, but there are less than 1000 Phaeton sold every year so maybe about 100 of them are the W12. And they are trying to put it in the Bugatti Veyron, which has been vaporware for years.
So all that research give you only hundreds of new w engines every year. It's not even worth it for the extra training expense you have to spend on the engineers and technicians.