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Old 02-01-2004, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ILuvItTheJDM
The current Venture and all of its clones are some of the most unsafe vehicles in production. Has GM done anything to improve safety in these new models?

http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_rat...html/96026.htm

Great vehicle for your family.

for what its worth:

"- Body structure and chassis reinforced to improve crash protection. "

i just think its insulting that theyve tried to infuse a minivan with SUV styling. i pity the fool that takes one of those sleds off of the paved road. :booty:


edit: just saw this: "40-gig, removable and downloadable hard drive cartridge - enough memory to hold 10,000 songs in MP3 or WAV formats"

ya thall hold about 600 songs in WAV format :sqfawk:
Old 02-01-2004, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jaje
but they have the "responsive high value 3500 V-6"!...marketing is working overtime to sell this load of rehashed junk...well these will make its way into the rental fleets quickly and have 4-5k in rebates to sell them to the public...now the question is when saab, suzuki and subaru will get a rebadged version too
Well...that's actually a new engine with overhead cams.
Old 02-01-2004, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
Well...that's actually a new engine with overhead cams.
Negative Batman, it's not the 3.5 from the Intrigue and base Aurora we saw a few years ago. It's still pushrod, it's the updated version of the archaic 3400. It's a hell of a lot better and is actually now more refined than the 3800 series (the 3400 used to be the worst second to the 3100). They're all the same blocks.

Eitherway it's no Camry or Accord 6-cylinder.
Old 02-01-2004, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by iNteGraz92
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i can't believe all they do is change the grill area, and slap another badge on it, and sell it. and people still buy them! wtf? can anyone give me a reason as to WHY gm does this crap? it's ridiculous.
I don't get it either...it's complete bullshit. I thought GM was supposed to stop doing this :slap:

Anyone notice how the center stack in all four is the EXACT SAME? Unbe****inglievable.

Kaz: Great comparison of all four :thumbup:
Old 02-01-2004, 08:12 PM
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looks like the headlights are interchangable on these 4 vans....couldn't they have done more to make them more different from each other?:ugh:

though its a typical GM rebadging technique and a way to cut costs!
Old 02-01-2004, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 04 Acura TSX
couldn't they have done more to make them more different from each other?:ugh:
People seem to forget we're talking about GM here. :awais:
Old 02-02-2004, 06:16 AM
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Will they still be available in two different wheelbases?

I actually don't mind the look. To me, the new Durango, with its bulbous new body, has a similar look, i.e. a van with a SUV nose grafted on.

In any case, I think they will be sold on low price. I don't think they will seriously sell against the Ody, Sienna, and Quest on quality, features, or performance.
Old 02-02-2004, 06:48 AM
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as much as i hate the badge-engineering, and i'm not impressed with the overall package, you have to hand it to them in the interior department, as compared to this 2003 Venture interior:


But it's pretty lame to start claiming an ALL-NEW product that is just a full refresh.
Old 02-02-2004, 09:49 AM
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I thought it was Ford that owned Volvo? How is GM getting away with slapping a Volvo XC front end to a Venture?

Responsive high-value 3500 V-6, producing 200 horsepower and 220 lb.-ft. of torque.
so whats the "value" part? the whopping 200 horses and 220 lb-ft tq?? or is it the cheap fleet pricing for rental companies its referring to?

anyways keep it up GM you f'in screwups....

notice the new Titan and the upcoming toyota's response to the Titan and watch as the import brands eventually take over the Truck Market as well. SHAME SHAME SHAAAAME REALLY!
Old 02-02-2004, 11:56 AM
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"Value" means pushrod. Basically the cheaper engine to produce.


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