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moofoo 07-31-2002 03:01 AM


Originally posted by s2ktonv


I wouldn't mind. I'm thinking 5-speed, ABS, 160hp engine for aroudn 15k is a bargain.

Honda probably would allow the installation of aftermarket 6x9s in the back without the use of a hacksaw :D But I dont see how we will be able to add a headunit to that console... :oh:

And back at the interior topic... from the pictures the Accord had a lot of influence from the germans. Thank goodness that passat raised the bar for the interior and thank Nissan for raising the bar for HP.

Otherwise I know for sure it wouldve been another ho hum accord
with a decent but boring interior and around 215 - 225 hp V6 level.

98CoupeV6 07-31-2002 04:11 AM


Originally posted by vasu
could someone photoshop the coupe with a spoiler on it? not a huge thing, but something like the OEM spoiler seen on the 6th gen.

I love my 6th gen accord, and the way it looks with a spoiler on it, but i didn't like it that much when I first saw it and it had no spoiler on it.

anyone up to it?

-vasu

I absolutely agree, vasu. My old 99 San Marino Red Coupe got picked over an Alero, but just because the Honda dealer had one on the lot with a spoiler, so I added that on damn quick. It's amazing how the 6th gen coupes are really bland w/o a spoiler but they have absolutely beautiful lines with one. I think it's because the decklid is higher at the glass that it is at the rear, so the spoiler makes up for that. Almost like the car was BUILT for a spoiler. I've never understood why Honda doesn't show the car with a spoiler in ads, brochures, and the such. 60% of all Accord Coupes I see (and there's ALOT of them, 20 times more than Solaras) have spoiler, which is amazing considering it's an expensive option.

Zumo 07-31-2002 05:07 AM

Photoshop? Ok.

http://www.zumografx.com/zumo/chops/03accord2.jpg
http://www.zumografx.com/zumo/chops/03accord.jpg
http://www.zumografx.com/zumo/chops/03sedan.jpg
http://www.zumografx.com/zumo/chops/03sedanblk.jpg

K i o n 07-31-2002 05:07 AM

fvck all those, this is an interior... hehe

http://www.ice-pla.net/images/bmw/trim/DSCN0218.jpg

moofoo 07-31-2002 05:15 AM


Originally posted by K i o n
fvck all those, this is an interior... hehe

http://www.ice-pla.net/images/bmw/trim/DSCN0218.jpg

dude not to rain on your parade.. but that's not the greatest
looking interior even if it's BMWs'

jwaters 07-31-2002 05:21 AM

Agreed! I've always liked the 3-series, but it always bugged me how the speedo cluster housing was so bulbous. (sp?) It makes it nice to have the speedo right in your line of view, but it looks odd. Anyone else notice this? Also, the ergonomics aren't nearly as good as some cars costing half as much (ie. the window controls on the center console) and don't get me started on the tacky orangish red lighting. JUST MY OPINION.
And for anyone who thinks I don't know anything about BMW's, I've owned a 1997 528i.

94AccordSedanEX 07-31-2002 06:01 AM

No interiors can match up to Audi's A4, S4, or A6 line.

Troopa-R 07-31-2002 08:00 AM


Originally posted by moofoo
Honda probably would allow the installation of aftermarket 6x9s in the back without the use of a hacksaw :D But I dont see how we will be able to add a headunit to that console... :oh:
Well, so far we've only seen the upper trim interiors.

It's possible that Honda might do this the same way they did the RSX. Lower level trims will have a standard size head unit that isn't flush with the console with a cubby underneath it.

yianni64 07-31-2002 08:15 AM


Originally posted by Eternal RSXness


Well, so far we've only seen the upper trim interiors.

It's possible that Honda might do this the same way they did the RSX. Lower level trims will have a standard size head unit that isn't flush with the console with a cubby underneath it.

I think itll be the same. But that cubby underneath is supposed to house a mp3/wma player from Honda, so maybe theres a din size space down there.

I always like how Honda's have been double-din, but the inetrior lines do look a lot better if they are more flush w/o the din.

yianni64 07-31-2002 08:18 AM


Originally posted by K i o n
fvck all those, this is an interior... hehe


First of all, I love BMW interiors, but I would have to say that I prefer the new Accord's to that BMW's.



Originally posted by 94AccordSedanEX
No interiors can match up to Audi's A4, S4, or A6 line.
Maybe the poor Accord shouldnt have to compete with much more expensive German cars.

moofoo 07-31-2002 08:18 AM

just haveto wait and test drive. Play with the fuggen radio controls.. try out the 180watt EX model's stereo. Havent heard if they would have a single subwoofer. I remember something from the dealer that for 2001-2002 they would offer a Honda Subwoofer...but that never materialzed, power was something like 60-70watts RMS.

Young Ha 07-31-2002 08:36 AM


Originally posted by Adröck
i posted this pic in the accord rumor thread, but i think it belongs in this one...

http://www.prolineracing.com/universe/03accord.jpg

So far so good. I like it, I like it alot. OMG just look at the coupe. i can;t wait to see it when its modified. But I personally think that the Toyota Camry will sell more than the Accord sedans. The Accord coupe would probably sell more than the Camry Solara. Hey you guys think Honda would try giving the Accord a "convertible look"? I think it would be nice. Maybe,maybe not.

moofoo 07-31-2002 08:47 AM

That coupe only looks nice IF they offer that gorgeous color!!

yianni64 07-31-2002 08:58 AM


Originally posted by Young Ha

So far so good. I like it, I like it alot. OMG just look at the coupe. i can;t wait to see it when its modified. But I personally think that the Toyota Camry will sell more than the Accord sedans. The Accord coupe would probably sell more than the Camry Solara. Hey you guys think Honda would try giving the Accord a "convertible look"? I think it would be nice. Maybe,maybe not.

The Camry sedan sells more than the Accord sedan becuase of its fleet sales. Also, I doubt we'll see an accord coupe drop top.

K i o n 07-31-2002 09:07 AM


Originally posted by moofoo
dude not to rain on your parade.. but that's not the greatest
looking interior even if it's BMWs'

i never said it was the greatest looking interior, but in my opinion, it certainly blows away the buick century/toyota camry/vw passat, haha

the accord's is prolly the nicest yes, but that wasnt the only interior posted, i'd say the 3er's tied with the altima for second...


also, its too bad we can't see a darker accord's interior with the titanium look finish...

98CoupeV6 07-31-2002 09:11 AM


Originally posted by Young Ha
The Accord coupe would probably sell more than the Camry Solara.
The Coupe already sells more than the floaty and ugly Solara. I believe it's about 5 to 1.

moofoo 07-31-2002 09:12 AM

Altima for 2nd!? I'm sorry maybe I didnt read that correctly!!
The cheap plastic seen almost everywhere is simply awful!
The deep cave like gauges are ugly as well. The car has power but it does not have refinement. Nissan knows this and will act upon this soon.

KV_ 07-31-2002 10:43 AM


Originally posted by 02RSXTYPES


Well come on KV, you have to admit the Alty's interior is pretty bad. That flimsy door ahead of the gear****, the cheap materials, and the towering dash that loves to reflect all need to go.

I did say the Accord interior was top notch, but the Alt interior isn't just horrific like people try to make it seem especially if they never even sat in one.

a fellow Altimas.net member interior...
http://computertimeco.com/altima/320/aut_2849.jpg
http://computertimeco.com/altima/320/AUT_2858V.jpg

DVPGSR 07-31-2002 10:51 AM

Is that wood stock or aftermarket...it looks decent but the radio, layout of dash, and gagues still looks bad.

98CoupeV6 07-31-2002 11:09 AM

My grandfather has a 2.5S Altima...and the interior is horriffic. I cannot stand cheap materials and bad ergonomics.

yianni64 07-31-2002 11:12 AM


Originally posted by DVPGSR
Is that wood stock or aftermarket...it looks decent but the radio, layout of dash, and gagues still looks bad.
I'm not really a fan of wood trim . But that looks pretty good. But yeah, basically the wood trim is the last thing I think about as far as the interior goes.

kazi 07-31-2002 11:17 AM


Originally posted by KV_


I did say the Accord interior was top notch, but the Alt interior isn't just horrific like people try to make it seem especially if they never even sat in one.

I sat in one and took a test drive in an Altima with dark grey interior and the wood trim. It was horrible. The wood trim layout looks way out of place with the cumbersome center stack layout. The instrument panel piece looked awful and had not flow design. The plastic had a cheapness feel on the texture. I haven't seen one review that does not say anything negative about the Altima's interior.

vasu 07-31-2002 12:41 PM

photoshop a coupe with a back spoiler anyone? :)

iNteGraz92 07-31-2002 01:03 PM

wow that wood trim on the altima is HORRIBLE
maybe it would look better if the wood wasn't so damn red

yianni64 07-31-2002 03:10 PM


Originally posted by kazi


I sat in one and took a test drive in an Altima with dark grey interior and the wood trim. It was horrible. The wood trim layout looks way out of place with the cumbersome center stack layout. The instrument panel piece looked awful and had not flow design. The plastic had a cheapness feel on the texture. I haven't seen one review that does not say anything negative about the Altima's interior.

Interior is really important to me, jsut as important as the outside styling. What do we look at while we drive, the interior infornt of us, and I think its really important to have a good layout. My 240SX's isnt that bad for a car from 1996, the seats are nice and so is the layout. The gauges are cool (SE model) but the led's on the HVAC system are hard to see. Not to mention the headroom blows.

fastball 07-31-2002 06:56 PM

So, the Accord is now a formidable contender in world class design, able to be mentioned in the same breath as BMW, VW, and Audi. This is the beginning of a new vehicle revolution, if you ask me. When was the last time a car in the low $20k range contended with cars costing twice as much? Kudos, Honda.

07-31-2002 07:10 PM


Originally posted by fastball
So, the Accord is now a formidable contender in world class design, able to be mentioned in the same breath as BMW, VW, and Audi. This is the beginning of a new vehicle revolution, if you ask me. When was the last time a car in the low $20k range contended with cars costing twice as much? Kudos, Honda.
Um....no. You mean BMW as in 3 series $27k, VW as in Passat $21k up, and Audi as in A4 which costs $24k up. Those cars arent very expensive low 20k's -high 30's ...so theyre not any more $ than the accord. You would need to choose the most fully loaded EX V6 which will come close to $26k and up . that makes it mid-high $20k. So thats nothing to brag about, they cost the same, and just brings the accord down, since those vehicles offer some distinct features. :rolleyes: The most fully loaded camry costs $31,484. and no, thats not a misprint.

fastball 07-31-2002 07:22 PM


Originally posted by 94UhkorGuy


Um....no. And anyway... for a car close to those listed above, you would need to choose the most fully loaded EX V6 which will come close to $26k . that makes it mid-high $20k

I was speaking in terms of fit, finnish, textures, and build quality. If you read the press list links they have aimed at BMW 5 series, MB, and the like in terms of fit and finnish. You can see in the pictures that it is for sure on par with any car costing ten grand more, it blows away anything in it's class and below, and has a touch of Lexus seamless fit where the center pod meets the dashboard. Having said that, the $18,000 DX model has the same fit and finnish as the $26,000 EX V-6, and they both approach cars costing twice as much.

yianni64 07-31-2002 07:25 PM


Originally posted by fastball


I was speaking in terms of fit, finnish, textures, and build quality. If you read the press list links they have aimed at BMW 5 series, MB, and the like in terms of fit and finnish. You can see in the pictures that it is for sure on par with any car costing ten grand more, it blows away anything in it's class and below, and has a touch of Lexus seamless fit where the center pod meets the dashboard. Having said that, the $18,000 DX model has the same fit and finnish as the $26,000 EX V-6, and they both approach cars costing twice as much.

:werd: I wrote my reply as you were, and by time I posted you already had. So I didnt wanna sound like a parrot. But yeah, exactly what you said.

07-31-2002 07:30 PM


Originally posted by fastball


I was speaking in terms of fit, finnish, textures, and build quality. If you read the press list links they have aimed at BMW 5 series, MB, and the like in terms of fit and finnish. You can see in the pictures that it is for sure on par with any car costing ten grand more, it blows away anything in it's class and below, and has a touch of Lexus seamless fit where the center pod meets the dashboard. Having said that, the $18,000 DX model has the same fit and finnish as the $26,000 EX V-6, and they both approach cars costing twice as much.

ah.... the same can be read/said about the fit and finish of the new camry. :rolleyes: Hondas always been known for cheap interior plastics etc... and its about time their doing something about it.

yianni64 07-31-2002 07:34 PM


Originally posted by 94UhkorGuy


ah.... the same can be read/said about the fit and finish of the new camry. :rolleyes: Hondas always been known for cheap interior plastics etc... and its about time their doing something about it.

ugh, sure i guess, no point in argueing with you...... :p

But I think the main downfall of the Camry's interior is the design. It looks like a GM design almost. Maybe I'm being kinda harsh there, but I just think its plain and kinda old fashioned styling I guess.

07-31-2002 07:42 PM


Originally posted by yianni64


ugh, sure i guess, no point in argueing with you...... :p

But I think the main downfall of the Camry's interior is the design. It looks like a GM design almost. Maybe I'm being kinda harsh there, but I just think its plain and kinda old fashioned styling I guess.

i dont understand how this comes across as being GM like, as well as old fashioned?? you show me old fashioned. please
http://carpoint.msn.com/merismus//Gallery/c440097a.jpg

yianni64 07-31-2002 08:05 PM


Originally posted by 94UhkorGuy


i dont understand how this comes across as being GM like, as well as old fashioned?? you show me old fashioned. please

I knew I wasnt using the right words when I said that, but I said it anyways.

Let's break it down to, do you agree with me that the Accord has the nicer interior than Camry and Altima, yes or no?

07-31-2002 09:01 PM


Originally posted by yianni64


I knew I wasnt using the right words when I said that, but I said it anyways.

Let's break it down to, do you agree with me that the Accord has the nicer interior than Camry and Altima, yes or no?

I will agree on Altimas part. But are you refering to the 6th gen or 7th gen Accord? I couldnt agree with you on the 6th gen Accord interior. I cant comment on the new accord interior, because i, nor you have been in it. I agree it looks nice, but not any nicer than the pic i posted of the new camry.

Sean

yianni64 07-31-2002 09:23 PM


Originally posted by 94UhkorGuy


I will agree on Altimas part. But are you refering to the 6th gen or 7th gen Accord? I couldnt agree with you on the 6th gen Accord interior. I cant comment on the new accord interior, because i, nor you have been in it. I agree it looks nice, but not any nicer than the pic i posted of the new camry.

Sean

7th gen, 6th gen's is on par with Camry's, but the toyota got nicer plastics compared to 6th gen.

I can get a feeling for it from the pics. I'm also talking design too, I think thats the main area the Accord wins in. The way things flow and look together.

Xcivic 08-01-2002 02:57 AM

I think the Camry's interior's major flaw is the design of the center console. I'm sure the materials are good and I can't explain my dislike for it other than saying it doesn't look as sleek, therefore in my eyes it doesn't look as upscale. The gauges are very domestic looking to me. Almost an old Oldsmobile look really. Then the center console is essentially in a "pod" design much like my Civic. It's just not as sleek as the 2003 Accords, or the Nissan Altima's interior. I'd still rank it second behind the Accord and ahead of the Altima based on look, design and fit and finish.

kazi 08-01-2002 10:08 AM


Originally posted by 94UhkorGuy


i dont understand how this comes across as being GM like, as well as old fashioned?? you show me old fashioned. please
http://carpoint.msn.com/merismus//Gallery/c440097a.jpg


We've gone throught his before. The Camry's layout was made for OLDER CUSTOMERS and looks like a BUICK. Because of the lack of a vertical stack in the new Camry, the flow of the dash flows horizontally. With the placement of stereo up high and the center vents sitting next each side and the climate control unit below plus a full horizontal belt that runs all the way across, the theme is mimicing a BUICK. The dash is like a BIG HORIZONTAL BAR.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/1...res/122464.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/1...res/122358.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/1...res/122411.jpg


And to prove my point about the Camry being the Buick class of the Japanese midsize, the Crown Vic/Grand Marquis has a similar layout too:

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/1...res/218419.jpg

DVPGSR 08-01-2002 10:14 AM

Kazi...nice work with the pics. :thumbup:

08-01-2002 10:28 AM

Ok, i do not want to continue with this. I do not agree with you, and you are not going to convince me. I do not want to convince you of anything, this has gone on too long, and quite frankly, im sick and tired of you. Yes they may look similar, the materials etc are all inferior in quality as well as everything else. Most cars are designed simialr, gauges on the left, radio in center, hvac vents across. So yes, they should look similar. If you have time to go browsing the web for pics of different buick etc... interiors, good or you, but i do not. So, thanks for your views of things, and have a great day! Oh, and just to get the facts straight, according to Demographics, the average age of an Accord owner(viewed as aimed towards younger buyers according to you) is 55(senior)no not in high school, and the average age of a Camry owner is 53. So as for your comment on the Camry's layout as being made for OLDER CUSTOMERS, those older customers are buying the accord, and younger buyers are buying the Camry. :rolleyes: Oh, and once again, have a GREAT day!!!

Sean

DVPGSR 08-01-2002 10:45 AM

94UhkorGuy

First let me say that I like the exterior of the Camry a lot. The interior though does look too much like an american car...I am sorry you cannot see the resemblances. AS for younger people buying accords vs camrys there are more younger people in accords, modding them, etc, than i see camrys. How big is the aftermarket for camry's...hrmmm wonder why? And you sir...Have a nice day:wavey:


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