b16a into a 91 integra
Rotorphile.
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From: Richmond, VA
Originally posted by g2tegls
B17a is much too expensive.
B17a is much too expensive.
Buy a B16A swap.
Install a B17A crank and rods (~$175).
Reuse the B16A pistons, they are higher compression then the B17A pistons.
Install into car.
Once this is installed, it will have the same displacement and higher output then the B17A, it just won't have the "B17A" block stamp.
Hell, I bought a B17A block a while back for $300 shipped.
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From: Broomfield, CO
The b16a and b17a are both rated at 160 hp, although some claim the b17a is stronger. You'd be better off with just the YS1 tranny from the b17a put on the b16a in my opinion.
But anyway, that's not gonna happen cause well it's too expensive for most people.
But anyway, that's not gonna happen cause well it's too expensive for most people.
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From: Richmond, VA
Originally posted by g2tegls
The b16a and b17a are both rated at 160 hp
The b16a and b17a are both rated at 160 hp
B17A1- 9.7:1
B16A- 10.2:1
If B16A pistons are used in a B17A1 engine, it would be closer to 165-167hp with 118-119 ft-lbs. The B17A1 was the lowest compression DOHC VTEC engine ever made, and the largest ever made without a crank girdle.
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From: Houston,TX
Originally posted by Kai
I have never understood why anyone would swap from a B18A to a B16A. There really isn't anything you can do to a B16A that you can't do to a B18A. Sure, the B16A revs higher and makes more top-end horsepower, but the price and torque loss is not nearly worth it. I would consider nothing less then a B17A for the DA9 chassis, ideally an LS/VTEC hybrid or a B18C would be used.
I have never understood why anyone would swap from a B18A to a B16A. There really isn't anything you can do to a B16A that you can't do to a B18A. Sure, the B16A revs higher and makes more top-end horsepower, but the price and torque loss is not nearly worth it. I would consider nothing less then a B17A for the DA9 chassis, ideally an LS/VTEC hybrid or a B18C would be used.
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From: Baton Rouge, La
torque = yummy
How about a stroker kit?
Some guy came onto 2gnt.com (eclipse, non-turbo) site, and was talking about his b16a swap, with some kid of "spoon stroker kit."
Is it effective on the b-series?
How about a stroker kit?
Some guy came onto 2gnt.com (eclipse, non-turbo) site, and was talking about his b16a swap, with some kid of "spoon stroker kit."
Is it effective on the b-series?
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Originally posted by senseiturtle
torque = yummy
How about a stroker kit?
Some guy came onto 2gnt.com (eclipse, non-turbo) site, and was talking about his b16a swap, with some kid of "spoon stroker kit."
Is it effective on the b-series?
torque = yummy
How about a stroker kit?
Some guy came onto 2gnt.com (eclipse, non-turbo) site, and was talking about his b16a swap, with some kid of "spoon stroker kit."
Is it effective on the b-series?
They are out there and effective, but sleeving is cheaper.
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From: Boise, Idaho
Originally posted by g2tegls
jdm b20b is a good choice but will require more things changed over for the obd2-->non-obd changeover. Also only has 140 hp. I would do b16 if I were you. Simple and cheap.
jdm b20b is a good choice but will require more things changed over for the obd2-->non-obd changeover. Also only has 140 hp. I would do b16 if I were you. Simple and cheap.
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From: Broomfield, CO
Some more stuff
http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthrea...light=JDM+B20B
http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthrea...light=JDM+B20B
So here are all the parts needed to be swapped over from the b18a...
-Engine wiring harness
-Distributor
-Fuel injectors
-Driver's side engine mount
-Header downpipe bracket
-Header
-Driveplate, flywheel and clutch combo
-Tranny (duh)
-Power steering pump and bracket
-Crank pulley
-*possibly the alternator - 'specially if it didn't come with one
-Engine wiring harness
-Distributor
-Fuel injectors
-Driver's side engine mount
-Header downpipe bracket
-Header
-Driveplate, flywheel and clutch combo
-Tranny (duh)
-Power steering pump and bracket
-Crank pulley
-*possibly the alternator - 'specially if it didn't come with one
you need to use your b18a thermostat housing and the b20's thermostat cover. you'll see a plug on the b20's cover that is not on the b18's. you need to lengthen the wire (on the b18 the plug in on the back of the block. on the b20 it's in the thermo cover), you'll only be plugging in one wire to the bacl of the block, the 2prog plug you just let it hang.