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eclipse spanker 07-01-2002 05:58 AM

INtegra's QUARTER MILE time.....
 
Theres an Eclipse club that hangs out close to where I live, and they are forever talking smack about how eclipses are better than integras....I have a 92 LS, and I myslef have beaten plenty of Eclipdse GSs (hence, my name). But anyway, I was talking to them this weekend and they were telling me that the quarter mile time for the stock 92 LS is 17 seconds, and that the type r does it in 15.2 seconds......That sounds like bullsh*t to me . Does anyone know any website where we can find quarter mile times for cars and compare them to other cars ? Does anyone have the 1/4 times for the 92 integras (LS and GSR) ? the 95 eclipse GS ? the GS-T ? The integra type R ?

Kaiz 07-01-2002 07:37 AM

www.edmunds.com has a few I think, but to my knowledge.

Times vary with driver skill.

2nd gen LS is mid to low 16's
2nd gen GSR is high 15's
3rd gen type R is high 14's

Epsilon 07-01-2002 08:11 AM

Gen2 LS, GS, RS Automatic:
0-60: 8.7 sec
1/4 mi: 16.9 sec

Gen2 LS, GS, RS Manual:
0-60: 7.8 sec
1/4 mi: 16.3 sec

Gen2 GSR:
0-60: 7.5 sec
1/4 mi: 15.7 sec

Gen3 ITR:
0-60: 6.5 sec
1/4 mi: 14.7 sec

07-01-2002 08:27 AM


eclipses are better than integras
they are in many aspects other than reliability, In racing aspect, they own you.

eclipse spanker 07-01-2002 08:41 AM

Is that why the 2nd gen integra LS is faster than the eclipse RS and GS ?

07-01-2002 08:46 AM

^ too bad it isnt.

xtrmcheeze 07-01-2002 08:49 AM


Originally posted by Kaiz
2nd gen GSR is high 15's
I got 15.2 on a cold day, no mods, 95 2door GS-R

07-01-2002 08:54 AM

Cheese, that says second gen, you have a 3rd gen.

eclipse spanker 07-01-2002 09:00 AM

FYI, 3rd gen and 2nd gen are basically the same car....(3rd gen has 2 more hp, 2nd gen has 2 more lbs of torque)

xtrmcheeze 07-01-2002 09:00 AM


Originally posted by techno freak
Cheese, that says second gen, you have a 3rd gen.
you're right, Im blind (or just reading too fast) :(

eclipse spanker 07-01-2002 09:05 AM

LOL....dude For all who can read.......I beat MY friends GS-T...not GS ...GS-T, with my 2nd gen LS, in a 1 1/2 city block-race. I understand that the GS-T will beat me over the distance..but quite frankly, the take -off on those cars SUCK !!!!!!)

LudeRage 07-01-2002 09:21 AM

Eclipse's (unless it's a GS-T or GSX), are ass slow..they have the same hp as the 3rd gen Teg (140) yet weigh almost 300 lbs more. FYI, 450 lbs equals 1 whole second on the quarter. And the 2nd gen Teg is definitely capable of beating a GS or RS every time.

07-01-2002 09:50 AM

RWD owns FWD

eclipse spanker 07-01-2002 10:12 AM

ok......so noone here really has any sites that have performance stats on import coupes ?

newgsrdriver 07-01-2002 10:22 AM


Originally posted by techno freak
RWD owns FWD
What does that have to do with Eclipses and Integras?

Eclipse Spanker - I forever will make fun of your name in every post that you put up, Im just warning you ;) Just search the internet man...the info is out there. www.google.com and type in "1992 Integra LS 1/4" or something.

Just for future reference, two kids going at it down a street isnt a very accurate way to determine a cars potential. There are too many variables. I guess the DSM drivers in your area are either one-armed, or maybe they race you half-throttle for amusement :p

PatrickGSR94 07-01-2002 11:05 AM

This post is rather ghey IMHO, as are all posts asking what ET a car is capable of. There are too many variables, including variables in engine manufacturing (tolerances, etc). I personally ran a 15 flat w/ mods you see in my sig, but would be in the 14's w/ a better launch and 60' time. I have heard of a Type R running a 14.2 w/ CAI and suspension only. Driver skill and track and weather conditions are the biggest variables. Right after my friend got his Eclipse GS-T (and my car was still stock), we went at it, and I whupped his arse. Why? Because he didn't have much experience driving or launching a manual tranny car. I know his car is faster than me, though. Want to find out who's faster and who is talking BS or not? Go out and run (on a TRACK of course!! :nono: ). That should settle all arguments. Don't pay any attention to magazine stats and numbers, just run 'em.

And just for the record, I think a 2nd gen Teg LS should be capable of being faster than any non-turbo Eclipse, simply because of the weight difference (stock for stock here, or very minor bolt-ons at the most). :oh:

reno96teg 07-01-2002 11:34 AM


Originally posted by PatrickGSR94
This post is rather ghey IMHO, as are all posts asking what ET a car is capable of.
agreed.. i'm this close =><= to locking this shiet.

eclipse spanker 07-01-2002 11:53 AM

OK before you lock it......to new gsr driver........this post is for peopl who have questions about acuras, right ? ok so my question is about me finding quarter mile times for an acura............before you talk next time d*ckhead, READ THE POST !!!!

Have a nice day :)

eclipse spanker 07-01-2002 11:59 AM

NEWGSR driver.............................just breakin your ballz man :)

LOwrestling2001 07-01-2002 12:28 PM

ok who said g2 gsr and g3 gsr are the same? cuz they sure as hell aint even close...diff chassis, diff suspension, diff motor...g3 gsr has 10 more HP.,...not 2 more...and maybe weighs a bit more...but gsrs can run anywhere from low to high 15s depending on the driver....and eclipsespanker if u beat ur friends gst...he probably wasn't racing u, or can't drive worth a damn, cuz those cars have a lot of torque and a good amount of hp (210 hp stock)...and would eat u for breakfast...

eclipse spanker 07-01-2002 12:38 PM

I agree totally with you....As I stressed before.....it was for a very short distance.........about a city block.....I already stated that the gs-t would obvioulsy beat an integra ls for a longer race...My whole point was that the eclipse take-off times suck a rat's azz. This kid has an intake, shift kit, new muffler, and his take -off is still freakin embarrasing ! Also, the above stated figurs for a 2nd gen teg and 3rd gen were for the rs and ls models...not for the gsr.

juiceweazel 07-01-2002 12:45 PM

210 HP? that's only for the TSI awd version. my buddy has 1. the launch on those is amazing if you know what your doing.
off the line awd kills fwd. and the teg has way more potential than the eclipse, just takes more $ to get them up there.

LOwrestling2001 07-01-2002 12:54 PM

GSTs if i'm not mistaken in 95-99 had 210 hp at the crank stock. i know they had at least 200 hp...my friend has one. um...integras have a lot of potential yes...and i believe they handle much better than eclipses...but with the same money, it would be so easy to make the eclipse much faster, with MBC, downpipe, exhaust, and an upgraded turbo, EASILY 12s...and gst's still have mean launches if u know how to launch them...not as mean as GSX AWDs...but by no mean are turbo eclipses slow. i mean ih ave a supercharged gsr and i love it, i can burn stock gsts and gsxs all day...but, when people mod their eclipses, puttin on aftermarket turbos and mbcs....u can't really hang...unless u turbo ur car and boost high (then u gotta upgrade internals).

RpG~^_^~LauRnO 07-01-2002 12:57 PM


Originally posted by eclipse spanker
NEWGSR driver.............................just breakin your ballz man :)
newgsrdriver===Super Moderator

You are a dead man dude
hahah:fawk:

eclipse spanker 07-01-2002 01:13 PM

Lowwrestling 2001, how much did everything cost you for the supercharger ? Parts and installation ?

asian 07-01-2002 02:21 PM


Originally posted by techno freak
RWD owns FWD
you have got to stop posting stupid lil facts like you know everything cuz you blantantly do not.

just like sutrusu said, i think i am speaking for everyone when i tell you to STFU

LOwrestling2001 07-01-2002 03:43 PM

my SC...i pieced it together sorta, it's a JRSC...and so i pieced it together the total in parts was about 1200...and labor was 500...i ahd the shop do it cuz there were small parts missing that i didn't know of

Weston 07-01-2002 03:58 PM

http://www.car-stats.com

The N/A Eclipses are pretty slow. The turbo'ed Eclipses are pretty fast, but nothing that a turbo'ed Integra couldn't beat. From bits and pieces that I've heard, it sounds like the new Eclipse's no longer come in turbo, but there's a V6 option instead. There's a guy who has a lightly mod'ed V6 Eclipse and he loses just about every race. I believe a stock 2002 2.2L Cavalier even beat him.

LOwrestling2001 07-01-2002 04:17 PM

well a turboed integra would be hard pressed to beat a gst...or even worse a gsx, if it had an mbc, and upgraded turbo and so on...factory turbo cars are so easy to make fast...if u wanna beat those u'll be needing a b18b/c turbo in a EG hatch hehe. yea those new V6 eclipses aren't too fast, my friend has one, but it's torquey tho...they still run i think mid 15s...in stock form with a decent driver tehy should be able to beat a gsr...200 hp...205 tq....

HondaBoy 07-01-2002 10:53 PM


Originally posted by Weston
http://www.car-stats.com

The N/A Eclipses are pretty slow. The turbo'ed Eclipses are pretty fast, but nothing that a turbo'ed Integra couldn't beat. From bits and pieces that I've heard, it sounds like the new Eclipse's no longer come in turbo, but there's a V6 option instead. There's a guy who has a lightly mod'ed V6 Eclipse and he loses just about every race. I believe a stock 2002 2.2L Cavalier even beat him.

Right. :rolleyes: A turbo integra would never have anything on any 4G63ed DSM. Have you ever seen a daily driven Integra with a full interior A/C and Power Steering run 10s? I haven't, I think turbo Integra's are badass (im planning on owning one soon) but DSM's are way out of the Integra/Civic's league.

LOwrestling2001 07-02-2002 12:12 AM

yea...eclipse turbos are out of integras league...only in a straight line though...hehe...an integra with the same drop/suspension as an eclipse will eat it alive around the track...eclipses have the turning radius of a truck...esp the newo nes....haha

newgsrdriver 07-02-2002 05:11 AM


Originally posted by eclipse spanker
ok so my question is about me finding quarter mile times for an acura............before you talk next time d*ckhead, READ THE POST !!!!

Have a nice day :)

Oh I read it...which is why I posted what I posted. You must be living in fantasy-land where 2G LS's run all over DSM's ;)

Just bustin' your balls man :)

eclipse spanker 07-02-2002 06:08 AM

OK you guys....I agree with you on that point...Eclipses are definetley easier to make faster then integras, but I also agress with low wrestling, eclipse have the turn radius of freakin 18 wheelers, and there stance sucks......I dont know know, I was just dissapointed when I took a ride in my friends GS-T...I was expecting alot more out of a turbo-ed eclipse. And Weston, thank you very much for the car stats, website......With that said, just because you guys said that the eclipse will kick the integras ass, I'm gonna make my 2nd Gen teg faster than the eclipse gs-t....stay tuned for the results !!!! :)

PatrickGSR94 07-02-2002 07:11 AM

I dunno too much about 2G Eclipse handling, but I do know that we have an Eclipse RS around here running in H-stock autocross w/ race tires and that guy ownz most people out there. He placed 3rd out of 55 entries at the last event in the PAX time. PAX results

In raw times he placed 13 out of 55. RAW results

I know I know it's not the car it's the driver, but doing that well has to say something about the car.

eclipse spanker 07-02-2002 07:25 AM

And you said that his car was running STOCK ?

HondaBoy 07-02-2002 09:25 AM

I also don't know about 2G DSMs, but I have seen many 1G DSMs win autocross events.

insnimprtguy 07-02-2002 11:51 AM

ok, for all u who know nothin' of DSM's, the 1G and 2G motors of NA DSM's r totally different!!!!!

1G DSM NA=4g63(DOHC 2L)Mitsubishi Motor
2G DSM NA=4a20(DOHC 2L)Chrysler Motor

FWD turbos (GS-T and TSi FWD) have turbo off the line w/ wheel spin, but have taller gear ratios, so yes in a long run they will beat a Teg, unless modified decently, also a good driver can launch a FWD turbo and beat a Teg anyday of the week unless ur a ITR, and an AWD will beat anything unless they can't drive at all, even AWD have been know to take out ITR (grip and taller ratios)

a DSM FWD turbo VS a DSM AWD turbo....
off the line=AWD
at a roll=FWD

1G DSM NA=135flywheelHP; 16.3-15.9
1G DSM FWD turbo=195flywheelHP; 15.8-15.4
1G DSM AWD turbo=195flywheelHP; 15.2-14.8

2G DSM NA=140flywheelHP; 16.6-16.2
2G DSM FWD turbo=210flywheelHP; 15.5-15.2
2G DSM AWD turbo=210flywheelHP; 15.1-14.8

2G Teg=16.8-16.6
2G GSR=15.6-15.2
3G Teg=16.3-16.0
3G GSR=15.5-15.1
3G ITR=15.3-14.7
(we all know the flywheel HP's)

so unless ur racin' a FWD 1G w/ the 92HP 1.8 SOHC, ur likely not to win, if it's a 2G NA, u could easly beat them, those have the exact same motor as the Dodge Avenger (4cyl) and Neon (DOHC)

u want anymore info on DSM's just ask, i used to own a 2G FWD turbo, and i still can remember alot of info 'bout them, since i used to know a hell of a lot

eclipse spanker 07-02-2002 12:44 PM

Thanks man,,,that pretty much what i wanted to know.....One question about g2 eclipse gs-Ts........What is their powerband ? ( strongest rpm range) ? And how are they geared compared to LS gears ?

insnimprtguy 07-02-2002 01:35 PM

from 3000-6800 (turbo) just strong pullin' non-stop, unless it's a aftermarket turbo or the stock turbo has been ported, those lil t25 spool up at about 2700-2800 so from around 3k to almost redline (7k), they pull hard and strong and they have much taller gears after 1st(quick as hell)
look, anyway u look at it if ur stock for stock, after a turbo DSM, ur not gonna win, u'd have to have CAI, header, highflow cat, catback, and a good clutch to keep up w/ a good driver, or even a below average driver

eclipse spanker 07-03-2002 05:34 AM

Cool, thanks for the info


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