Should I upgrade to Spoon or NSX calipers?
I have a fully built 1995 Civic EJ1 coupe with the JDM DC2 5 lug conversion. It is a street/show car and not a track or drag car.
http://rides.hondatuningmagazine.com...vic/index.html
I am thinking about swapping the OEM ITR front calipers for the Spoon twinblock calipers, yet keep the OEM sized 11.1 inch rotors. My current brake setup is Brembo CD/slotted rotors, EBC greenstuff pads, Goodrich stainless lines, '95 Civic Si 4040 prop valve, and '01 Integra GSR brake booster and master cylinder.
After researching the Spoon 4 pot calipers, I know that I can still use my existing stainless steel brake lines, and still use brake pads of my choice that are OEM spec and sizing. The size of the calipers should be compatible with most aftermarket wheels that are 15" and above with 40-44mm offsets. The twinblock calipers are direct plug and play to the DC2 5 lug spindle.
After researching the NSX 2 pot calipers, same as above. Are all front NSX calipers the same from 1991 to the present???
Is it even worth it to upgrade to one of these caliper sets? Are there noticable differences between these caliper sets versus the OEM ITR calipers if all else stays the same?
http://rides.hondatuningmagazine.com...vic/index.html
I am thinking about swapping the OEM ITR front calipers for the Spoon twinblock calipers, yet keep the OEM sized 11.1 inch rotors. My current brake setup is Brembo CD/slotted rotors, EBC greenstuff pads, Goodrich stainless lines, '95 Civic Si 4040 prop valve, and '01 Integra GSR brake booster and master cylinder.
After researching the Spoon 4 pot calipers, I know that I can still use my existing stainless steel brake lines, and still use brake pads of my choice that are OEM spec and sizing. The size of the calipers should be compatible with most aftermarket wheels that are 15" and above with 40-44mm offsets. The twinblock calipers are direct plug and play to the DC2 5 lug spindle.
After researching the NSX 2 pot calipers, same as above. Are all front NSX calipers the same from 1991 to the present???
Is it even worth it to upgrade to one of these caliper sets? Are there noticable differences between these caliper sets versus the OEM ITR calipers if all else stays the same?
Last edited by Toy Civic; Sep 20, 2007 at 06:31 PM.
The only difference you will feel is better modulation which is pedal feel. Like the snoop said unless you track your car often you wouldnt notice.
If you want better braking for cheap get rid of those garbage EBC pads, those are trash.
If you want better braking for cheap get rid of those garbage EBC pads, those are trash.
You would only see the benefits of upgraded calipers on the track (not drag strip) where you will have less brake fade and yes, better pedal modulation when they start to get hot. So if you don't track your car, don't bother.
txhatch, those pads are good for track use (which we determined the OP is not doing), so for DD use they're going to be overkill. I was upset at the reduction in initial bite when I went from Axxis Ultimates to Hawk HPSs, and the HP+ is a step above the HPSs in terms of temperature resistance and high-temp performance, so it'll be even worse.
OP, I'd highly recommend the Axxis Ultimates. They're cheap and will perform very well for your non-competitive driving habits. I ran a set of those on my car and they were awesome even for spirited driving, and because they had great cold bite, they were comfortable around town and performed well at autocrosses (where you dont have any room to heat your brakes up a little). The only reason I upgraded to the Hawk HPSs was because I was in fact able to overheat the Ultimates, but that was with some very hard driving. Going with Hawk HPS or HP+ or Cobalt Friction GT will cost more and be way more than necessary for your purposes, making cold braking noticeably worse.
txhatch, those pads are good for track use (which we determined the OP is not doing), so for DD use they're going to be overkill. I was upset at the reduction in initial bite when I went from Axxis Ultimates to Hawk HPSs, and the HP+ is a step above the HPSs in terms of temperature resistance and high-temp performance, so it'll be even worse.
OP, I'd highly recommend the Axxis Ultimates. They're cheap and will perform very well for your non-competitive driving habits. I ran a set of those on my car and they were awesome even for spirited driving, and because they had great cold bite, they were comfortable around town and performed well at autocrosses (where you dont have any room to heat your brakes up a little). The only reason I upgraded to the Hawk HPSs was because I was in fact able to overheat the Ultimates, but that was with some very hard driving. Going with Hawk HPS or HP+ or Cobalt Friction GT will cost more and be way more than necessary for your purposes, making cold braking noticeably worse.


