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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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just curious can a honda motors be turned into a fuel system regulated by a mass air flow sensor. what maf sensors are able to be put on what has to be done and any other tips or input will be helpful. thanks
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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OK, first thing you should know:

MAF (mass air flow)/AFM (air flow meter) sensors are bad.

MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sensors are good.

Converting to a MAF/AFM is a step in the wrong direction. They aren't as presise as a speed/density fuel system (like comes stock on Hondas) and choke the intake tract with a flapper door or screen, depending on the model used.

This is coming from an RX-7 guy stuck with a factory flapper-type AFM. FC owners, DSM owners, and lots of other car guys fight to convert to speed/density systems because they have better power potential on all setups. Honda owners don't realize how good they have it right off the showroom floor.

If you absolutely must have a MAF, you have to buy an aftermarket EMS (Haltech, Microtech, Wolf, etc) on the order of $1000+. They can be configured to use MAF sensors.
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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a friend of mine has a dry nitrous kit that hes gonna trade me for some subs they have been used on cars with maf sensors how is this usable on a honda/acura that im trying to get or even is it? i was under the assumption that it had to be used on a maf system to regulate the amount of fuel as the nitrous enters the motor. is this not true? i hope i can work with this because im getting a pretty good deal. and dont worry im not some little rice boy lookin to slap nitrous on an unprepared motor im just doing research for future endevors.
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kai
OK, first thing you should know:

MAF (mass air flow)/AFM (air flow meter) sensors are bad.

MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sensors are good.

Converting to a MAF/AFM is a step in the wrong direction. They aren't as presise as a speed/density fuel system (like comes stock on Hondas) and choke the intake tract with a flapper door or screen, depending on the model used.

This is coming from an RX-7 guy stuck with a factory flapper-type AFM. FC owners, DSM owners, and lots of other car guys fight to convert to speed/density systems because they have better power potential on all setups. Honda owners don't realize how good they have it right off the showroom floor.

If you absolutely must have a MAF, you have to buy an aftermarket EMS (Haltech, Microtech, Wolf, etc) on the order of $1000+. They can be configured to use MAF sensors.
Yes the old style MAF were big and bulky. New style hotwire MAF meters ala Toyota and others just have 1 small probe in the intake stream similar to a O2 sensor setup. Quite a big difference from older generations.

Actually both system MAF and MAP systems are quite good but on MAF has several inherent advantages that MAP does not have. MAF automatically adjusts for altitude change and moisture content in the air. MAF is actually more accurate... it's measuring the amount of air (mass) rather than just pressure.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by stumpyf4
MAF automatically adjusts for altitude change and moisture content in the air.
That depends more on the model of vehicle then anything. The big issue about altitude change is the air pressure... exactly what a MAP sensor measures. A lot of cars have separate atmosperic air pressure sensors anyway.
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a friend of mine has a dry nitrous kit (...) used on cars with maf sensors how is this usable on a honda/acura that im trying to get or even is it?
It should work with a speed/density system just fine, as long as you wire it right. Contact the manufacturer to see if you can get a copy of the install instructions.
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