Please help me out here, just a couple of questions i liked answered... Is it safe to have coilovers with the stock shocks?, (a coilover system such ground controls), also in addition to it being safe how about the drving of it. A friend of mine told me the type r shocks are stiff enough to go along with a certain coilover system such as ground controls, is that true? because i know they is stiffer but im concerned about it going along with lets say Ground control coilovers. And what is the best shocks to have to go along with the JIC FLTA2 coilover suspension, because i am planning of getting those very soon? thanks

 

The only JIC suspensions I have seen come with their own spring dampers valved for the springs that come w/the suspension.

Ground Controls: If you call Ground Control and just buy their out of the box springs and adjusters for the DC2 ITR, then the springs will be heavy front and mild enough for the OEM shocks.

However, you could be opening up Pandora's box as far as suspension modifications go, and you might want to think this through quite thoroughly before you buy something.

If all you're after is lowering the car, then that's fine.

If you want to alter the way the car handles, then you should probably go ahead and spend a little more money up front.

The DC2 re-enforced ITR suspension can take very heavy springs, if you want, without harming the chassis.

A setup that has proved very popular among enthusiasts and part-time track people is the Ground Control setup with 400# Front and 500# Rear, together with Bilstein shocks. Many people have made that small change and been good with it for years.

KYB shocks are inexpensive and offer a surprising range of adjustability for the price.

Koni Yellow are a perennial favourite. You will not be able to go over 500# springs with the out of the box Koni Yellow valving, however.

If you want to know what I have, it's 500# Front, 750# Rear, and revalved Konis.

 

By the way: I don't mind driving my spring rates for occasional street use or coming/going to the track. Most people would find it a bit harsh, and I can't really recommend it for daily street use.

Scott Lear, the Grassroots Motorsports writer, has 1000# springs on the rear of his daily driver.

 

George, in your opinion, would the Ground Controls (same spring rates you refer to) and the new externally adjustable Koni's, stock out of the box, work well together?

 

So I do not need to get shocks when I get the JIC coilovers (FLTA2)? And about the GC coilovers with stock shocks... does it have the same or better ride lets say like street/sprited and part time track as compared to the stock suspension springs/shocks? My friend has Ground Controls/stock shocks but he can't give me an answer because he says he doesn't know. I just like to know because i am thinking about getting GC coilovers and use stock shocks temporarily until i have the money for JIC coilovers...

 

I would recommend that you stay on the stock suspension until you've got a better idea what you're looking for out of your suspension. Have you driven your car on the track yet? If you haven't, you really should try it out with the stock suspension. Suspension is really a subjective thing, what one likes and what works for some won't necessarily be good for another. I think if you let everyone know what you use the car for and what you are looking for ie) something that will perform well on the track but will be liveable on the street, something that will perform as good or slightly better than stock and will lower the car to make the stance better, something that will excel on the track and will be bearable on the street, etc. That should help some of the more knowledgeable guys, like George, steer you in the right direction. But buying ground controls to use until you buy JIC coilovers doesn't sound like the most efficient use of your money to me. Of course, if you have alot of money and don't mind spending more to do that, that's your perogative too.

 

Yes, assuming you mean the 400/500 springs and not the 500/750 springs.

 

LOL... At those prices I think it had better include the dampers.

If you mean the stock-like Ground Controls that they sell then, yes, it would be about the same as using Spoon Progressives. The car will terminally understeer, it'll be safe on the street, and it won't destroy your OEM shocks right away (assuming they're in good shape to start with).

 

This is always sound advice.

 

What i am looking for out of my suspension is something very superb for both track/street, but rather more of track than street. In other words i want something more for track purpose than for street but excellent in both. What i do is i only take my car outlike on weekends or lets say once i a while on very nice days, not daily driven, take it out to the track and autocross, and take it out to the street for joy rides with very spirited driving on the street.