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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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Nah, I wouldn't worry about the EVO, it's such a watered down version of what they have in Japan, it's not much of an issue, the new WRX STi is something to worry about, and the new Neon SRT-4 is also something to worry about. The Lancer has 240 crank hp, then take away all the all-wheel drive train loss and you're not a far cry from the current WRX.

In any case, don't worry about it, just win.....

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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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Not true, the Evo is rated at 271 hp to the crank and 273 lb/ft. of torque
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Aj
Nah, I wouldn't worry about the EVO, it's such a watered down version of what they have in Japan, it's not much of an issue, the new WRX STi is something to worry about, and the new Neon SRT-4 is also something to worry about. The Lancer has 240 crank hp, then take away all the all-wheel drive train loss and you're not a far cry from the current WRX.

In any case, don't worry about it, just win.....
Yes the WRX STI is a car to worry about 2.5 turbo 300hp 300 lbs/ft but this is just another reason to make the R faster :lol:
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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but another factor is the weight. Those cars are alot of haevier than the Type R.
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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True but most likely the subaru will still have a better power to weight ratio .
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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Yeah, the subaru isn't that much of a pig, plus for the hole shot it has awd....trust me, that'll be a car to watch out for when it comes stateside.

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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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Yeah, I'm aware of the STi. that's going to blow the socks off of the EVO. Damn! it's a shame they watered down the EVO. :twisted:
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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Well.. the EVO isn't that watered down.. 271hp compared to 276hp in Japan/Euro right? Would the active diff and yaw control really make that much of a difference anyway?? But yeah.. the Sti will kick...
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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If you took away the LSD from the ITR, do you think it'd make a difference in its handling? Of course it would. Mitsu did the same thing with the US Evo: They took away the mechanical LSD in the front and put in an open diff, the Active Center Differential is replaced with a less responsive viscous-coupled unit and the rear electronically controlled plate-clutch type LSD is a mechanical unit.

As for the power ratings.. in Japan, she was underrated. She was actually pulling numbers in excess of 300 hp to the crank so we are seeing a significant detune in the US version. Getting a turbo downpipe, hi-flo cat/test pipe and 3" catback should help gain back the losses.

All around, pretty disappointing considering that the Evo's handling characteristics were my chief consideration. Watering down the powertrain components detracts from exactly what the Evo stands for.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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Kabob you know your stuff! Your right though, there is a gentlemens aggreement among Japanese Cars. no more then 300 HP, but in reality some of those cars produce over 300HP check out the Nissan Skyline which can produce up to 400 without modifying the stock internals! :twisted:




and the Suzuki Aerio that can produce well over 1,000HP(the whole production line)
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