Hey like the subject, what does it mean? Isn't it rather how high the suspension travel up and down? or does it the dampers, i thought the shock had dampers installed in every shock? if it is does, does it mean the higher the setting the stiffer it will be, or viseversa. I'm having with this situation because im planning to buy Tien coilovers. thanks :roll:

ps. on some of the forums i c, you guys type "bump" what is it, im a newb at this.

 

Jason I think we might need to back up a bit. . .

no such thing as debound.

There is rebound and compression.

The discussion about rebound or compression and adjustability has to do with how stiff the shock will be to compress and how fast it becomes uncompressed (Rebound).

What do you really need to know or are you just learning? Also I would suggest looking into Zeal B6's. A little more $$ but they ride batter and have a better adjustment system IMO.

Trey.

 

Trey how about the Tein Type RA compared to B6?

 

If I am not mistaken the RA does not have the same height adjustment design as the B6 and the BC's. I'd compare them more to the TEIN RE.

 

hi Trey. I'm always open for great conversations if someone is willing to teach me. Isn't anyone? If the "teacher" know what they are talking about.

And as for the suspension subject, Zeal B6 and the Tein RE. I know they are both well respected company's, but since I've never tried them I dont know how do they feel. I rarely go to tracks. (too expensive for part replacements, etc...) so I just drive to a mountain around 2 in the morning for practice every other day (dont worry i'm not a rice boy), and I also daily drive this car. What do you guys think it's a good setup?

Any other suggestion? What about Apexi?

 

also on this another post I've read,

"Looking at the Buddy Clubs they and the B6's have what I woudl consider a more important feature which is spring preload with heigh adjustment that is independent of shock stroke length."

teach me what you mean :lol: i think kabob, trey, Aj, can teach me a few things along with some other people.

 

Well, I'm not sure on this one, but I thought that the only real difference between the RE and RA was that the RE was a more track tuned suspension using stiffer spring rates, and had 32 adjusments rather than the 16 on the RA, but again, I really didn't look much into it, so I could be wrong....

I the case of suspension, especially when it comes to the steet, you really don't need to know a heck of a lot, just what works for you, unless you really want to impress someone at your next cocktail party(jk). You really don't need a really expensive suspension setup order to get really good handling on the street. Although the Zeal, Buddy Club, etc. are all really great coilover setups, in all realistic terms if you don't go to the track a pretty fair amount(monthly), a Mugen 26mm rear sway bar at like $375 is more than you need and a fraction of the cost. That alone will for the most part correct a lot of the "plowing" and understeer associated with Hondas. But, really, to justify spending over a thousand bucks on coilovers that, in all honesty won't be all that wildly phenominal on the street, would be nuts. Coilovers shine on the track, but on the street, may not accomplish what you think they will.

you might be surprised, your car's limits on the streets, will probably far overpower you, even with stock suspension. My advice is, improve driver, then, improve car. And, if you don't go to the track, likely to not, you're probably not getting in the requisite practice to be a superior driver, on or off the street. Learn the basics; how to heal-toe, how to trail brake, how to correct over/understeer, where to apex a turn, etc... Once you've gotten really good at that, and feel that your suspension is insufficient for your level of driving, then move on to improving your car. On stock suspension we've managed to win quite a number of Touring class SCCA events, and in fact match the lap times of some pretty well modded Integras in different classes.

Consider that, more isn't necesarily better, often, all it is, is more......

Later,
Aj

 

Although I havent had much experience on the track, (I'll be attending Willow Springs this month) I have had experience and passed with full honors in my racing school. As you said, learn heal-n-toe, etc should be learned first also with learning to driver better...I know how to do heal-n-toe, single clutch, double clutch and also understand its full function.(fairly well in my opinion) I know I've asked for help, but I dont appreciate how you are treating me. :evil:

As for the suspension, I was asking how it felt on ur car WHILE driving. Although the specs of the 2 suspensions has helped me indeed. I understand that upgrading suspension is just pushing ur limits on cornering, but i was more asking on if you've felt and uncomfortableness in certain area while cornering. thanks :lol:

 

Well, I wasn't making the comment about you in general, there are other people on this chat board that also read these posts, so don't be such a pompus blow hard and take things personally. It wasn't meant as a personal attack.

As far as coilovers on the street, on any serious race coilover, you shold expect a very rough ride. If you live in a place with no pot holes or bumps, you're golden, if not, your in for a lot of fun......jk

Later,
Aj