Type R suspension upgrade
I am planning a suspension upgrade on my 98 Type R. I am going to choose one of the following three suspension systems: Mugen Low Down Sports, Comptech/Koni Pro, TEIN Flex or HA. My car is a daily driver, but is used for occasional Autocross and is being setup for Solo I. If anyone has information about or experience with any of these suspension systems please share it with us on the forum.
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[quote:511c86b3c4]Just one question, How long have you had this car?
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I've had the car about 6 months. I came with Ground-Control coilovers using the stock shocks. One shock is already leaking, so now is a good time for an upgrade. :wink:
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I've had the car about 6 months. I came with Ground-Control coilovers using the stock shocks. One shock is already leaking, so now is a good time for an upgrade. :wink:
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HA's are hard to come by since TEIN america doesn't offer them anymore. I would look into the TEIN Flex or my latest favorite the Zeal Function B6's (I happen to have HA's).
I do like my TEIN's a LOT but would get Zeal's next based on what I have seen and read.
I do like my TEIN's a LOT but would get Zeal's next based on what I have seen and read.
[quote:e97a7a8a5a]HA's are hard to come by since TEIN america doesn't offer them anymore. I would look into the TEIN Flex or my latest favorite the Zeal Function B6's (I happen to have HA's).
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Thanks for the information Trey, I'll be looking at the B6's. 8)
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Thanks for the information Trey, I'll be looking at the B6's. 8)
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The Bilstein PSS9 are a great coilover, especially for the street, as they aren't nearly as harsh as the Konis. You may also want to look at H&R coilovers, they really have led the field in suspension in all the pro race circuits. Don't just go by name, go by what works, and if your gonna spend the money on mugen stuff, just buy the Moton gear, it more expensive, but actually worth the price, and not just a name. Any way, good luck!!!
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[quote:bcb8e6a11d]..just buy the Moton gear, it more expensive, but actually worth the price, and not just a name...[/quote:bcb8e6a11d]
Thanks for the info. AJ, I'll check out the Moton gear. I'm not familiar with that brand at all, always looking for new stuff !!
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Thanks for the info. AJ, I'll check out the Moton gear. I'm not familiar with that brand at all, always looking for new stuff !!
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Moton is very popular in the pro race scene, the reason you've probably never heard of them, is because they are very expensive, the set I wanted with the external oil resiviors were like 1200 a corner. Though they do make less expensive coilovers. King Motorsports sells them on their web site, even though they are overpriced. Unlike Mugen, they're not teh only retailer in the country either. Good luck!!
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One a few more questions,
Do you or have you tracked the car on a road course?
I see that you had a inferior springs on the car for a time now, maybe you should try stock for an improvement.
I have and I know many people who have a stock sus R and they really like the way it handles, not that it can't be improved but. Remember that Honda has spent alot of money on R&D for the ITR.
I also know a few people that have try to "upgrade" their sus but went back to stock.
Not trying to set a fire here but the stock is a really nice set up- the only thing you might want to do is change the springs to Spoon, they are a bit stiffer and lower the car a hair or two..
hope my advise will help you to save money and to improve your car.
Do you or have you tracked the car on a road course?
I see that you had a inferior springs on the car for a time now, maybe you should try stock for an improvement.
I have and I know many people who have a stock sus R and they really like the way it handles, not that it can't be improved but. Remember that Honda has spent alot of money on R&D for the ITR.
I also know a few people that have try to "upgrade" their sus but went back to stock.
Not trying to set a fire here but the stock is a really nice set up- the only thing you might want to do is change the springs to Spoon, they are a bit stiffer and lower the car a hair or two..
hope my advise will help you to save money and to improve your car.
[quote:3c9368bebc]..One a few more questions,
Do you or have you tracked the car on a road course?
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You're not "starting any fires" by sharing your opinion, I'm glad to have your input. In answer to your first question yes I have tracked the car, in both Autocross events and Solo I as part of a SCCA hosted two day combination PDS/Solo I event at the Bragg/Smith road course here in Nevada.
As far as the Ground-Control coilovers being "inferior" I don't agree with you there, GC uses Eibach springs which are some of the finest available. Their coilover kit for the Type R does ride pretty rough though for 380 lb. front / 250 lb. rear.
I have driven two other Type Rs, both with the stock suspension. Unfortunately this was daily driver activity only, with no track testing. I agree 100% that the stock suspension is tough to beat. There are however a number of products out there that are a significant improvement over stock for specific applications. The key is to choose your aftermarket products wisely, especially for the Type R ! 8)
Do you or have you tracked the car on a road course?
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You're not "starting any fires" by sharing your opinion, I'm glad to have your input. In answer to your first question yes I have tracked the car, in both Autocross events and Solo I as part of a SCCA hosted two day combination PDS/Solo I event at the Bragg/Smith road course here in Nevada.
As far as the Ground-Control coilovers being "inferior" I don't agree with you there, GC uses Eibach springs which are some of the finest available. Their coilover kit for the Type R does ride pretty rough though for 380 lb. front / 250 lb. rear.
I have driven two other Type Rs, both with the stock suspension. Unfortunately this was daily driver activity only, with no track testing. I agree 100% that the stock suspension is tough to beat. There are however a number of products out there that are a significant improvement over stock for specific applications. The key is to choose your aftermarket products wisely, especially for the Type R ! 8)


