Automatic....is there anything i can do
 

Hey, as some know i have a '00 teg ls and its an auto! what on earth can i do to this thing to make it either faster or handle better, ultimatley i want both. or should i just save up a huge roll of cash and by a type r engine and swap out my engine? if anyone knows anything about tuning a automatic help me out please....thanks

sell the automatic and get a 5speed. You can increase the handling on any car with some good springs and shocks. the power isn't worth it.

u dont have to sell the car just swap the tranny although the LS isnt a hard car to find...maybee it would be easier to do the former

oh god.





you make me ashamed to be from seattle. :-\

start droppin' Neutral y0. :p

try to find a gs-r 5 speed tranny and swap it out first, that shold be able to handle any power that you could put to it.

If you haven't modded your car yet, SELL IT AND BUY A MANUAL.


Auto to manual swaps will totally ruin the resale value of your car. They're also expensive and relatively complicated.

:werd:

The man has a very valid and true point.

Seems that nobody asked him about how much faster he wants his car.......and since it doesn't matter whether you have a manual or auto when it comes to improving the handling characteristics, that part of the issue is not an issue. I have a 96LS w/auto trans and about 6 months ago put on a Greddy Turbo Kit & Greddy SP CAT exhaust system. My cars horsepower jumped by about 60% and about the same percentage of torque. So far my tranny has held up pretty well. For the street, I am quite happy with how fast & responsive the car has become.

Joshman......what do you want you teg to do?

Let us know so we can realisticly give you alternatives.

Scott.

If he was honestly in it for the speed, he should have bought a different platform than an integra. If you reeeeealy want a manual, just sell it and buy a different car.

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good point

i have an auto to, but i still say suspension before major speed mods

turbo and trans cooler

you have a couple of choices.. sell your car.. and get a MT

or you can just work on your suspension first, and do an tranny swap later. I dont suggest on swaping to a b18c5(itr motor) and turboing it.. its a waste of a good motor, and it would be pretty expensive. I would probley stick with the LS motor .. and do the tranny swap.

Integra AT suck, I have heard nothing good about them.

I hear what everyone is saying...sell the manual and get the auto or do a tranny swap. Auto tegs arent good i press on the gas and it takes a couple seconds to engage, but hey thats what automatics do right....but i was thinkin there was something you could do to an automatic cant you like change the gear ratios and make the throttle more sensitive some how??? maybe im just crazy. i would be happier with my teg if there was some way i could make the throttle more sensitive, you know how it is, you step on the gas the rpms stay where they are and then in a couple seconds they go up and your doing ok...isnt there any specialty place i could go around seattle that could tune an auto to make it accelerate faster? probably not, but thanks guys for all your suggestions.

The only thing I can think of is a custom modded automatic tranny, which would be horrendously expensive. Force 10 is one shop in SoCal that builds ATs for drag applications, and a similar outfit in your area could rebuild your AT with a higher stall speed torque converter, custom gear ratios and stronger clutch packs.. but as I said before, you'd be looking at the better part of $2000, I bet. Driveability will suffer, engagement and shifting will be harsh, and above all, you'll be wanting more HP and torque... unless you really HATE shifting (and it doesn't sound like that's the case), I'd sell the car and find a manual DC4.

Alright, that sounds like the best idea, ill see what i can do. thanks.

levelten has shift kits and torque converters that will be one of the best upgrades. A torque converter will probably be one of the best upgrades...not only will it shave down your 1/4 mile time, but it will allow you to get more power from other upgrades due to lower drivetrain loss. With a tranny cooler(other then stock, yes you do have a stock tranny cooler) the next big upgrade would be a turbo. Dont forget though a auto ls runs about a 16.8 stock and with bolt ons and a torque converter upgrade you would probably still be in the low-mid 15s, which is what a stock/CAI gsr would run.

Buy a GS-R.

How much would that torque converter be do you think? It sounds bitchin.

The torque converter will run you $500 plus shipping .

thats not too bad, if its gonna give me good performance. is it worth it?

I've spent like the last hour looking for a performace torque converter for my 2000 teg ls and i couldnt really find anything. if anyone finds a site or knows of a site let me know, cause this torque converter thing sounds sweet.

suspension for sure, then if u can find one, get an auto tranny from a jdm sir-g. shorter gears own.

hes not joking i had an auto civic that i wanted to drop a 5 speed into.3 grand for an conversion,not including the tranny.i talked to 3 shops only one sed they would take it and for the above listed price,sell your car,an auto is so boring to drive,unless you live in a traffic city.

Im liking the idea of a torque converter.

Dude I would seriously just sell it and buy a manual.....but I do think TCI makes a torque converter for the LS and the price is not $500 its $769.00. :oh:

769.00?? where'd you get that? Please research before you post.
The actual price is 498.00 plus shipping. Here's the link http://www.levelten.com/store/import..._converter.htm

uumm dead link dumb ass :rolleyes: research before you post :fawk: Go pick up any Summit and look at it a TCI torque converter is $769.00 just like I said. :ohfawk:

Level Ten know's import's better than TCI. And You can have level 10 customize the stall speed to your liking. And it's almost 300 bux cheaper.

link works fine for me smart ass.:fawk: if not just go directly to they're main site. Yeah I just noticed you where talking about the TCI one. :oh:

Yeah thats :cool: I was talking about the TCI thats the only one I have heard of(since I usually don't deal with autos). Thanks for the info. :)

no prob, I didn't even know TCI started making TC for imports. Now I know. Had to add smiles on my posts or else it would sound like I was mad.:) Lates

I really doubt you'd be able to get down to the mid-low 15s with just the mod's listed. With basic bolt-ons (intake, header, exhaust, cat), most LS 5-speeds run high 15s. Even with a good torque converter and tranny cooler upgrade, the auto will still shift slower than a competent manual driver, and you'll still only have 4 looooong gears to play with. I'd be surprised if that auto would even break into the 15s, much less run a low one.

Edit -- my .02 cents -- the only time auto's are good on a performance vehicle is if you have a massive amount of horspower (i.e. over 600) and your car is pretty much a drag only vehicle that you need to hit perfect shifts every time.
I say sell the AT and get an MT, or just accept the slowness and concentrate on handling.

I will bet that he would get into the low 15's with a bolt-on turbo kit. I did with my '96 LS auto :D :D

Scott.

Almost certainly.:D
But that goes a wee bit beyond the "basic bolt-ons" that we were talking about, wouldn't you agree?
$3000 turbo kit > $1000 I/H/E

Edit -- and have you taken it to the strip? what are your times?

Thanks for the link speeddemon, i spent hours lookin for somethin like that.
After i get the torque converter i'll deffinatley go for some bolt ons, and possibly a turbo, highly doubtful though.
I just want to get the torque converter so its a bit faster off the line and so its more responsive, after that i'll head to some easy bolt ons and handling as well. or i just might sell the damn thing and go with a 1990 supra. but who knows i might save up for a type r.

Hey speeddemon, do they sell any brand new torque converters, because i dont want to have someone take mine off and send it in, then i wont have a car to drive. i just want to buy a whole seperate one and have someone install it.

The best thing to do in that situation is to find somebody parting out an integra that will sell the TC for cheap(like $20 or something). Anyway, TCI(entirely new unit) and the levelten basically do the same shit. They cut your TC open, modify the veins and weld it back shut with new fluid. To my knowledge it is the best upgrade to do with an auto(with tranny cooler, which is like $35+install which is easy). The integra auto shifts extremely fast and is has very firm shifts, so please dont say its shit. Also note that altitude and track conditions play a large roll in 1/4 mile times...along with tire selection. So, if you friend with a LS cant seem to hit a high 15 with ebay bolt ons, please dont say it cant be done. Also, the auto has lock-up solenoids for the TC that tell it when to lock in 1:1, before it locks in your TC acts like a hydraulic pump and more or less lowers your gear ratio(please note: LS autos first gear is 11.8:1 whereas a gsr is 14.2:1. Thus, youre going to need more power to turn over that steeper gearing. Again, please note...I had an LS auto, gave up, sold it, bought a gsr. Also note that my gsr is faster stock then my auto would be with quite a bit of shit done to it.

Sorry Level 10 can customize to your liking like I said earlier And is also cheaper like I also said earlier. TCI come's as is.

Also joshman if you want call Level Ten up and tell them that you don't want to send yours in until you install the new one, They'll send you a modified converter, charge you a core fee than when they receive your original T.C. back, they'll take back that fee. Also When you speak to them ask them that your unsure of the stall speed you want and they'll tell you which one might fit you best.

alright sounds good