honda_pilot:

"First off... who the f*ck you think you are? You know NOTHING about cars but then again you drive a FORD, and yes the old saying about "It's a FORD" does hold true because as long as "Fix or Repair Daily"; or "Found On Roadside Dead"; whatever you wanna call the **** you use for transportation has been around its been just that... ****. Yes Ford was the first automotive manufacturer in US. But ummm newsflash why did they start bringing over imported cars...? Cause American cars and especially Ford is sh*t! When our Hondas creep over 100k miles we're still pushin' the redline, when they reach 150k we're still pushin redline, HELL some of us love hearin our world-reknown engine purr at 7 or 8 k RPM sooo much we're pushin' redline until the damn things die, which is about 250k miles, not 100k like you ford owners. On the other hand you should start to worry and begin to baby that thing at like 60k and all you Ford owners start to be frantic about your cars...

Oh I should get my oil changed more often, maybe I should drive it less, or take it to the dealer once a week.

Point is don't come up in our forum thinking you are the **** because you drive a FORD Specialty Vehicles Team car. That just means its a little better than a regular Ford. And yes my girl just brought home her new '03 RSX-S last week without even thinking twice she (and she's not that good a racer yet) will spank your ass worse than your mom did, without trying. So F*CK off, F*CK YOU, and F*CK all you Ford and American car owners who thing you are the ****.

One more thing maybe its new to you, your precious Focus is a poser of a sport compact car, Ford is a little late to the scene."




Dude, let me say this one more time: SETTLE DOWN!!!

I came here to have a debate about whose car is faster not to argue with an agitated Honda owner. I already told you that I have not disrespected anyone on this website, nor will I in this post, or in the future. You however have clearly insulted me and the car that I choose to drive. I get the feeling that you just drank 3 pots of coffee and then totally spazed out. Is the language you used really necessary?

Why can't you make more intelligent posts like spooncivicb16b's?

"actually i raced a focus svt a week ago in my 1.6 litre 2000 si, i'll admit it had torque off the line but i still destroyed it. oh yeah i only have a aem cai."

This is a legit post. He clearly says that he disagrees with me and his Honda Civic Si is faster than my car.

Why do you assume that I "know nothing about cars"? You have no information to base this on. The automotive industry dissagrees with you because they write me a pay-check every month.

I will not go into detail with the debate about Ford vs. Honda. And I will not insult you because you drive a Honda. But you have to admit that American car companies are more successful than the Japanese because they're more innovative. This is something that Japanese engineering lacks. In general they just take an idea and improve on it. While the Americans create their ideas completely from scratch. The car I choose to drive is very innovative. This is also why it's faster than your car.

Please do not insult me further because the only person here getting mad is you.

 

honda_pilot is sort of, well, out there. Please don't mind him.

 

The Acura RSX Type-S is barely faster than the SVT Focus. Honda has quality on its side, but the SVT Focus is better than most people think. The 2.0 powerplant is very responsive for what it is. Handling is in a class of its own. My 90 CRX SI on a fully built 1.6 SOHC still spanks the SVT though in 1/4 mile runs with ease.

 

honda_pilot = wned:

lol

 

uhh.. yeah, anyway i admit i didnt really read the other post, but SVTFocus was yappin bout how he was talking to oscar jackson blah blah blah... that thread he linked to mentioned nothing of the RSX-S, so how are we supposed to know he said that? besides, superchargers are a waste of moneis

but wait a second here, at the end of that post **** got really weird, you started to say that the SVTF puts down 150whp... and the RSX "only" puts down 170... wtf? assuming both crank numbers were correct at 175 and 200 respectively, both would have a 15% drivetrain loss, so why should the RSX put down more than 170whp stock?

"barely" is a subjective term, there are people who feel that the difference between a 15.0 and a 14.7 in the 1/4 (three tenths of a second, less time than it takes to cough), is a significant difference... i wouldn't consider anything N/A between $15k-25k to have too significant of a difference in overall acceleration

 

The SVT Focus is rated at 170hp crank. The Acura RSX Type-S is rated 200hp at the crank. The SVT Focus puts down 150hp at the wheel. The Acura RSX Type-S puts down 167hp at the wheel, as the AEM dyno proves, and I've seen 2 seperate stock RSX's put down those same exact numbers on the same dyno. The point is, the dyno's I've seen show crank hp rated at 187-189hp not the 200hp Acura advertises. I've seen a Japanese Type R Integra thats rated at 220 put down 215-220hp at the crank. See my point? The U.S. version does not put out advertised hp, the Japanese does put out the full 220hp its rated at. Oh well...

 

see, your point is moot, you could say you've seen 2 RSX's put down 167whp, but i can say i've seen 2 RSX's put down at least 170whp, stock. im sure we could both back it up with dyno charts. that proves nothing on either side, dyno ratings vary widely. personally i'm convinced by more than enough proof to know that RSX's to put out as much crank hp as acura advertises, so i for one don't care what you've seen. yeah sure, i'm more than willing to bet there are 167whp dyno numbers on AEM's site, hondata also put up those same numbers to inflate their ECU-mod gains. it matters not.

and even if i were to consider your point for a second, it's completely retarded anyway the japanese-built K20A motor does put out as much hp as it says it does, but the japanese-built K20A2 motor does not? isn't that somewhat of a stupid point to argue over? what're you trying to prove? that honda's engine technology isn't as good as it claims to be for engines sent to america where their cars are more competitive, than those used in japan where hondas are stepped on daily? even if it isn't as good as its supposed to be, you're not one to talk since even those numbers would mean that the K20A2 still makes more HP:liter than your motor does, now what? you wanna brag that you have another 3 lbs-ft of torque? this pissing contest is lame.

yeah, the SVTF is a great handler, i for one won't deny that, and its also a great deal for the money, but if you wanna argue about engine technology... come on, you drive a ford! not quite a manufacturer known for volumetric/mechanical efficiency

 

I couldn't have said this better myself. Amen.:thumbup:

 

I drive a Ford Mustang GT boosting 10lbs a daily driven 11 sec car, I drive a fully built 1990 Honda CRX SI on original 1.6 SOHC motor, I also drive the new SVT Focus, and my fiance drives a 1998 Nissan SE-R. So obviously I'm not a stupid Ford fanboy, I enjoy all cars and I'm not stupid enough to put faith in just one auto manufacturer, cuz they all want your money in the end. I was simply bring up the point that the new Acura RSX Type-S seems to dyno lower HP numbers than advertised, and when I spoke to Oscar Jackson about it at a local Ford Focus meet, he agreed and said when they engineered they're SC for that car, he agreed and said that Acura fibbed on the HP numbers. I'm not saying my SVT is better, cuz I agree that FORD quality generally sucks, my honda has been super reliable no doubt, but the new RSX Type-S seems to be weak in HP ratings in my opinion, please don't flame.

 

98CoupeV6: don't be a hypocrite you were doing the same in the previous posts. I know you're respected on the board and such but I have not done anything on HA.net to base your comments about me. Thanks and who :gives: anyway?

KThankx: You don't have much to say that was your first post so shut your candy ass mouth:jlammy: