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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 08:46 AM
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Default aftermarket INJECTOR & cam gear Q's for b18b

First of all, I'm bulding a b18b with:
b18b block honed .020 over and decked
srp 10.5:1 .020 over pistons
reconditioned rods
srp rod bolts
the piston pin is floated
block guard
block girdle
knife edged crank
decked, p&p head
b20 valves
crower 404's, crower dual valve springs, and titanium retainers
skunk2 Intake mani
gude tb
aem cai
venom fuel rail
b&m fpr
magnecore 8.5mm plug wires
msd sci-l
....well, what I was wondering is:

whats the diff between Sturated and peak&hold injectors?
which ones should I get?
what size? 310cc? 340cc?

What cam gears?
STR? Skunk2? DC?

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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 10:54 AM
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Saturated injectors are high-impedance(8-10 ohm resistance), peak-and-hold are low impedance(~2 ohm resistance). If your car came with saturated injectors(which is should if you have a B18B), then it'd be easier to swap in another set of saturated injectors. However, peak-and-hold injectors are more common in larger sizes, and are usually a bit cheaper than saturated injectors. If you want to run p/h injectors on a car that came with saturated injectors, you would need to either wire in a resistor pack(like from a p/h Honda), or wire 7-8 ohm resistors inline with the injector harnesses. You would also need to get the appropriate injector clips. If you're going to be running a stock ECM, 310cc is the highest you can go without using a piggyback fuel controller or a standalone ECM. Also, make sure that your block girdle is being put in the right way, IE with dowels. Otherwise, if you just simply bolt it on, you'll be doing more harm than good. As for cam gears, the Skunks would b e the best of the three you listed because they have 6 locking bolts. Otherwise, Toda, JUN, and Spoon gears are good because they're made out of steel like the stock gears and will not be as prone to slipping or stripping out like alluminum gears would.

Here's a list of injectors you can pull off stock cars:

VEHICLE Injector Types Flow Rate
1988-91 Civic si/crx si Peak and hold 240cc
1992-95 Civic si/ex Saturated 240cc
1996-00 Civic Saturated 240cc
1990-91 Integra Peak and hold 240cc
1992-00 Integra ls/gsr/type R Saturated 240cc
1992-96 Prelude non-vtec Peak and hold 240cc
1992-96 Prelude VTEC Peak and hold 345cc
1997-up Prelude VTEC Saturated 280cc
1991-up Sentra se-r/200sx se-r Saturated 265cc
1991-up MR2 Turbo Peak and hold 440cc
1988-91 Supra Turbo Peak and hold 550cc
1993-up Supra non -Turbo Saturated 315cc
1993-up Supra Twin Turbo Peak and hold 550cc
2000-up Celica GT-S Saturated 310cc
1990-up Miata 1.6 liter Saturated 215cc
1993-up Miata 1.8 liter Saturated 240cc
1993-up RX-7 Twin Turbo Saturated 550cc/850cc
1990-96 300zx Twin Turbo Saturated 370cc
1991-up 3000GT VR-4 Peak and hold 350cc
1989-up Eclipse Turbo Peak and hold 450cc

This is how a resistor pack is wired:
http://www.hondata.com/techinjector.html

This is the proper procedure for installing a block girdle:
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=263598
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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 05:33 PM
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Wow ~!~! you got it very detailed :bigok: :bowdown: :beer: :beer: :beer:
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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 06:44 PM
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Minor correction (not like it's a big deal): the resistance on saturated-type injectors is usually 12-16 ohms.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 07:12 AM
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also with teh help of an AFC it is possible to run the 370cc injectors.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by v4lu3s
also with teh help of an AFC it is possible to run the 370cc injectors.
Originally posted by inspyral
If you're going to be running a stock ECM, 310cc is the highest you can go without using a piggyback fuel controller or a standalone ECM.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=137901

feel free to tell that to the guy running 450cc injectors on a stock ecu then
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 09:29 AM
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I believe the point was that you re-stated what had already been said. Make sense?
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 09:30 AM
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ah somehow i missed the piggy back...
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 10:18 AM
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<==450cc/AFC
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