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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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Default Water in the floor - Driver's side

Ok, I found out where the water is coming from. It's dripping down from under the dash on the left sidewall where it meets the fire wall. I painstakingly removed the water late last night by removing the driver's seat and lifting the carpet.

I though the source of the leak was the poor seals on my windshield which I sealed up and it still is leaking. Has anyone fixed this before? There seems to be an allowance for water to flow off the windshield in the lower corner and down through some gutter away from the engine bay and dash area. It seems that it is now rusting through and getting into the dash area. I don't want to plug this gutter because the water might go elsewhere causing more damage. Any ideas, thoughts on how to fix?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:46 PM
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ok i have the same issue and found out that Water leaks onto the front floor (either or both sides) due to insufficient sealer on body seams. (1992-97) its from the the seams under the fender... i had a pic of it but lost it..... you might be able to go to your local honda dealer and ask them to print out the bulletin for you....
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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I found the pics from our sister forum honda-tech.com. In fact, I uploaded them to this forum since that forum doesn't allow uploads and the link to them might get lost.

I had that fender fixed by a body shop 1-2 yrs ago and they probably didn't use the right sealer or didn't seal it at all. It's disappointing since it was all paid for by my insurance. Hopefully the issue goes away.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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edit:Turns out I had this thread (and the tsb/diagram pictured) confused with 1 or 2 others and in my hurry to post this not only did I neglect to actually look at that pic of the TSB - which is very self explanatory and negates the whole reason for this post - but it turns out the leak is coming from the driver's side sunroof drain tube. h:

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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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Default If you have a sunroof, here's the fix.

I found this link while doing a search, it ended up being the fix for my problem.
http://civic.indybbs.net/viewtopic.p...c0d232e6dad016

For those with a similar issue, only the floor of my driver's side was wet, first the front and because of the large amount of water it made it to the back as well. None of the carpet on the sides or against the firewall under the pedals was wet, only the floor - as if it might be coming up from below.

The sunroof drain tube consists of a yellow tube that runs from the sunroof itself and plugs into the black piece or "valve" where it exits the car behind the splash guard. Over time they partially separated and allowed most of the water coming down the tube to drip onto the wires under the dash (tight connections luckily so no damage) before draining onto the floor. It doesn't actually contact the carpet until it's on the floor because it's dripping behind where the carpet sits on the side, just past the dead pedal.

I ended up removing the main relay(being careful not to cut my hand again on the sharp point of the dash like I did when I re-flowed it's solder), hood release lever, and the bottom bolt of the bracket that is mentioned in the link - you'll know when you see it. I actually ended up bending it out of shape slightly and wedging my flashlight between the bracket and the carpet so I could get my hand in there.
I'd planned to use a hose clamp like the link suggested but the tight space and a rather small clamp made me abandon that, so I ended up applying some RTV silicone sealant/adhesive - a thin film for the inside where one tube fits into the other and a thicker layer around the outside, or as much as I could get to.

I went from a soaking wet front and rear driver's floor (a surprisingly large amount of water gets by the outside perimeter of the sunroof, especially in a monsoon) to nice and dry despite more rain since the repair. I haven't yet pulled my carpet up out of laziness so after drying with towels, I just ran my A/C a lot h:

The day before I found that link I did a temporary fix, which works if you don't have time to get under the dash, and it payed off by keeping water out of the tube while the adhesive dried since it started raining just as I was finishing up. I first wrapped a spare bolt with electrical tape and plugged it into the drain hole in the sunroof drain channel (just open and look) and just in case, I followed that up with duct tape around the perimeter of the sunroof.

If you don't see water dripping from under the dash when it's raining or you're in the car wash (as detailed in the TSB above) and you think this might be your problem, an easy check is to open the sunroof and poor a bottle of water directly into the drain hole. If doing that once or twice produces a noticeable wet spot on the carpet (and the drain valve outside only drips like mine) it's time to get under the dash.
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