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Installed Greddy turbo kit: engine management question...

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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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The car runs very strong, pulls very nice. Now, all I want out of this turbo kit is exactly what I'm getting in stock kit form. I DO NOT plan on pursuing any further hp goals with this car. The improvement in hp is actually more that I expected, so I'm more than content. I've been down the modification road in the past with vehicles I have owned and know how modding can get out of hand to the point of unreliablility. So, with this car, I want it to stay as reliable as reasonably possible with this turbo kit. Now, I've heard time and again that the Greddy emanage "blue box" fuel management system that comes with the kit is crap and is very limited in its functionality. Well, what makes it "crappy"? If its just because it doesn't have any programmable options, is that a problem since I'm not gonna modify the kit? So, what are the reasons why I shouldn't keep the blue box, being that I have no intentions of changing the turbo setup?
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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I would ditch that hunk of junk and pursue a chipped ECU that is tuned for your setup. Not only will you gain a little more usable power throughout the powerband, but it will make your engine run safer with less risk of blowing something up.

I have had personal experiences with the Emanage and won't recommend that garbage to anyone.

1. Instruction manual riddled with errors
2. Wiring is a pain in the ass
3. Need to buy extra harnesses and software for full functionality
4. Daily CELs for no reason, even when hooked up correctly
5. Car actually ran worse going from untunable blue box to the Emanage with stock maps
6. OBD2 learns around it since it is just a piggyback unit

They go for a pretty penny on ebay, so sell it and look into a chipped ECU like Hondata or Crome.
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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ok, so the blue box isn't a reliable option. So, I need a chipped ecu huh? So, I need to purchase an obd1 ecu that I can program/have programmed with some editing software such as crome or uberdata? What EXACTLY do I need to purchase for this setup? I hear I need a wiring harness for the obd1. What harness is this exactly? Is it the harness that plugs into the individual sensors for the engine? Is it a big ordeal removing it from the car? With the uberdata or crome programs, can I use other peoples programs and load them onto an obd1 ecu that I get? I know these questions are probably basic, but I'm trying to learn about this aspect of engine management, so bear with me here.
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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Alright, so I talked to Fernando @ CFT (Central Florida Tuning) and I got a quote for swapping ECU's and dyno tuning. What he quoted me was $175 for the chipped ECU, $175 for the conversion harness, and $400 for the dyno tuning with Crome. What do you guys think about this option? Is it a decent deal for the money? I've heard good things about CFT, any opinions?
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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Everything sounds about right except the conversion harness. I paid $60 for mine, so $175 is way inflated.
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