Ok guys I am fairly new to the Honda scene. I recently swapped in a B18C1 in my 92 civic 4 door. I am trying to get about 230 horses out of it. My question here is how do you suggest I do it and I know the answers can be very open ended so anything is good as long as its helpfull. I have an interest in turbocharging it with stock internals but can the engine handle it and if so how much boost can I put on it with the stock internals? My second question is if the stock internals cannot handle it whats a good way to go NA? I am interested in no more than about 250 horses? I dont race much but I do want my car a little faster than it is right now.

 

NA - Expensive horsepower bang for buck.
Turbo - Cheap horsepower bang for buck.
Supercharge - Likely more expensive than a turbo setup, and I've found turbos work better on Honda engines.

 

turbo you would get WAY more hp then 230 and compared to SC you get less heat with a turbo

 

dont forget about nitrous, it almost sounds like nitrous might be best for what your looking to do? just throwing it out there. i wouldnt recomend a supercharger on a daily driver (in boost all the time), especially a little 4 banger..

 

Allmotor is going to run you a lot more money than putting together a turbo kit. But to me it would be more satisfying to run an 11 or 12 all motor than with F/I.

Turbo is the second cheapest hp gain. Still 1000-1500 for a nice setup.

Nitrous is easily the cheapest bang/buck. I secured a zex kit with ferrera valves for 650$.

 

yeah nitrous sounds cool. Over here I see way too many civics with turbo setups already. Everyone is moving away from all motor. I am not a hardcore racer but I definitely like a good all motor setup more than turbo. Why I say that is because you can turbocharge any car with low compression and get pretty decent power out of it. On the other hand going all motor is basically using the potential of the motor and trying to make sometthing out of it. I have always seen that turbo setups make a car lot more unrelaible than all motor. There is always some sort of leak after say a year or so, the turbo itself needs maintenance. Im currently going to school to get my masters in engineering and you can understand I can't deal with the unreliability much. My car is superb right now reliability wise and thas why Im more inclined towards all motor. I was thinking about some skunk2 stage 1 cams, skunk 2 IM, MSD ignition and maybe VAFC tuning. What do you guys think. This is just to gain about 20-30 horses till I get more serious or get a second car.

 

You won't gain 20-30 hp from those mods. You might see 10 at the most if you have it dyno tuned, but nothing spectacular. The MSD ignition is completely worthless, by the way.

A turbo done correctly and not half assed and hacked together is very reliable. Even my setup, which isn't anything spectacular, is very reliable considering the age and mileage on my car.

 

I actually admire your setup very much. It is one of the nicest setups I have seen on a GSR with stock internals looks like. You dont mention any engine work anywhere, I've seen your ride on CARDOMAIN before I even was a member of this. Nice stock lookin GSR with a good turbo setup. So if you dont mind I'd like to ask you a few questions. Is that your daily driver? How many miles have you driven since having the turbo setup? I want to clarify again you are running it on stock internals correct? As far as boost goes, is it not hard on your engine especially with the high compression GSR motors have and driven daily? Why the CTR cams and not the stock GSR cams( I know they higher duration and lift figures)? Last but not least as far as maintenance have you had any turbo parts break or go bad? Any leakage, losss of compression, or any negative sideeffect? Thanks Schmoo. Oh one more thing what are you running anyway on the quarter mile and what are your dyno figures.

 

He's right about the MSD Ignition, I had one on my car it cost me a lot more than what it was worth, it was installed correctly, and I had spent $800 on repairs because it damaged my ignition components, burnt my PowerTrain Control Module, and it took it to mechanic shops until one finally figured that the MSD Ignition Control Module was defective. It worked well for the 1st month, then after it felt stock, then the engine had intermittent missing and thats when all the drama occured.

 

It isn't really anything special. h:

It is my daily driver. The turbo has been on for a year and a half now, so I probably have 10-15k miles on the setup. Yes, I am running stock internals. I haven't had a problem with the high compression, you just need to retard the timing a bit more to make sure there is no detonation. CTR cams will flow better than the GSR ones and they have minimal overlap, which is good for turbo. I haven't had any turbo parts break on me at all, but the piping has blown off half a dozen times, but that is normal. I also had to replace the piston rings because they were shot before I put the turbo on and the turbo magnified how bad they were letting oil into the combustion chamber.

I have no quarter mile or dyno numbers....yet. I'm hoping for high 12's with slicks and hopefully 250 whp fully tuned at 10-11 psi.